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Here's the article (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/15891.html)
So, anyone else interested? I'm hoping (a long shot no doubt) that they might actually do a movie based off DS9. I think thats a universe they could do a really cool movie in -- and to be honest, with the books, they wouldn't need to do much, since most of the story has already been written ^_~
Theres a rumour though that it might've been about Kirk and Spock... but personally I think TOS needs to rest. Baring that fan thing, I think it would be doing a disservice to Bones and Scotty to make a movie without them =/
Oh well.
I'm just hoping this might rekindle a little interest in the series. After the blow we took from Enterprise.... its going to be hard to recover.
-Neo
Can i just ask what you found particualrly bad about enterprise? I feel it was a little harshly treated. For example, tney had to take a few liberties *cough* Xinidi *cough*, or else they would just have to do the same thing every episode.
Glad to hear ST ain't dead yet.
And I'm looking forward to Legacy.
why are people form Lost working on it though? Will the crew end up stranded on a deserted island and find random clones of themeselves? And a hatch? And a random 'monster' (read: polar bear) stalking Jean Luc or Kirk?
Also, i think Kirk would be dead by now.
I agree, I'd like to see (memory fading, sorry if i got the wrong one...) Sisko back form DS9, he was quite cool. Although, his story arc kind of ended with the end of the Dominion Wars...
PS: Schran the Andorian rocked:D.
Kingscrab
05-11-2006, 10:04 AM
I think it would rule. I loved DS9 and thought the characters were great!
I mean, come on... How can anyone ever get sick of watching Worf do battle? KILL!! KILL!! KILL!! :D
Kirk and Spock needs to rest in peace though. Bringing them back is just a silly novelty at this point... They had their moment. :)
Ohhh, how did I forget Worf... greatest big hairy warrior since Chewie :D
I think Next Generation is quite likely, it seems to be the most popular one for films, especially since Voyager is over, and DS9 is kinda done with too.
Bear in mind though, most of these characters are from a similar time frame.
I didn't like Enterprise, and personally don't consider it worthy of Star Trek.
It started off ok... but really what the fuck? Xindi? The Borg? The mirror Universe? FFS near the end it seemed as if they were just recycling ideas... which was pretty shitty.
If they had spun it off so it was a different universe, I think that would've been ok.
Personally I think things started to go wrong when I heard the opening song =P Star Trek = orchestral, always has... I think switching to vocals was a bad idea. Not that it wasn't a bad song XD
At the least, it would be nice to see some new blood work with ST.
-Neo
sololop
05-11-2006, 3:42 PM
Neat. not being a major trekkie, I do enjoy their movies.
Nickodemus
05-11-2006, 5:23 PM
OMG, I can't believe I am saying this....
I would love to see a DS-9 type movie. earlier than the series though. along the lines of when it first gets made or something like that.
this movie idea sounds ok. but they are just going to do some randomly studi time traveling save the future/past thing that got old the last 300 times they did it.
DS9 was Terok Nor before it was DS9, and run by cardassians. That enslaved the bajorans.
Somehow I don't think that would make a very good Star Trek movie.
=P
-Neo
ScottieIWU
05-14-2006, 9:35 PM
I don't forsee XI being anything before Nemesis. After all, all of the ST movies go in a chronological order which makes it seem unlikely that there would be any break.
Plus, you seemed to hate Enterprise, and most of your complaints seem to come from the fact that it toyed with the ST universes' history and didn't do a good job. If you insert a movie in the DS9 time you could fall into the same trap, as the TNG-based movies tended to update the ST universe history.
Personally, I'd like to see a mostly new situation. Perhaps it'd be interesting to set up a ship with mostly new characters to kind of set us up for a new series. I know it's probably wishful thinking, since this is the first dark age of not seeing an ST series airing new episodes, but I still kind of want it to happen.
For some reason, the Star Trek movies haven't extremely crapped yet despite there bieng so many of them. I guess I'm looking forward to it.
I don't forsee XI being anything before Nemesis. After all, all of the ST movies go in a chronological order which makes it seem unlikely that there would be any break.
Plus, you seemed to hate Enterprise, and most of your complaints seem to come from the fact that it toyed with the ST universes' history and didn't do a good job. If you insert a movie in the DS9 time you could fall into the same trap, as the TNG-based movies tended to update the ST universe history.
Personally, I'd like to see a mostly new situation. Perhaps it'd be interesting to set up a ship with mostly new characters to kind of set us up for a new series. I know it's probably wishful thinking, since this is the first dark age of not seeing an ST series airing new episodes, but I still kind of want it to happen.
You misunderstand -- I want a DS9 Movie set after the ending of DS9, the book revival for DS9 went extremely well, and I think a movie version of one of them (or even something similar) would rekindle interest.
If not DS9, then they could actually create a New Frontier movie, off of Peter David's creation, which is set in a totally different area from other Star Treks.
And I had a problem with Enterprise because it didn't hold true to the Trek universe... They never should've gone back.
-Neo
Kingscrab
05-15-2006, 2:53 PM
And I had a problem with Enterprise because it didn't hold true to the Trek universe... They never should've gone back. Agreed. Aw jeeze... i just realized the next movie might be about "Enterprise"... (I'm a little slow, i know) Anyhoo, THAT would be a shame. Uhg.
ScottieIWU
05-15-2006, 11:56 PM
And I had a problem with Enterprise because it didn't hold true to the Trek universe... They never should've gone back.Agreed. I think once I detached it from normal ST in my own mind I enjoyed it as a kind of stand-alone series. But definitely trying to squeeze in official canon history in between First Contact and TOS is hard, and they failed.
I like your idea of a post-DS9 movie, though, Neo.
Agreed. I think once I detached it from normal ST in my own mind I enjoyed it as a kind of stand-alone series. But definitely trying to squeeze in official canon history in between First Contact and TOS is hard, and they failed.
I like your idea of a post-DS9 movie, though, Neo.
I admit I only like it because of the way they collected new crew in the relaunch ds9 books (Ro shows up, new characters like Vaughn, Akaar, and a Jem'Hadar soldier named Taran'atar -- he was sent to DS9 by Odo to observe "alphie" life and such, hes also 20 some years old, and not dependent on white -- ie: a rarity in the Jem'hadar. They also tied in Garak, a new religious figure who is on track to be the new Kai, and later in the book series they bring back Kai Opaka, or rather plain Opaka.)
Meh I dunno.
New Frontier movie might be really cool though, what with Calhoun and such. Plus a Brikar would be neat to see in action ^^
Yeah, the few times i've enjoyed ENT was when I detach it, like you. Personally I think that they truly failed when they made vulcans out to be anti-mind melds and shit. It was generally accepted that Vulcans spent eons developing thier 'mind powers' =/
Then there was the whole new bad guys (what the hell happened to the Romulan War?), time line war or w/e the fuck, borg, and the fact that the Enterprise looks so much better then TOS. It just was a poor idea at the begining =/
*rant rant rant*
-Neo
ScottieIWU
05-16-2006, 12:32 AM
Then there was the whole new bad guys (what the hell happened to the Romulan War?), time line war or w/e the fuck, borg, and the fact that the Enterprise looks so much better then TOS. It just was a poor idea at the beginingI don't think the whole new round of baddies would have worked out as poorly if the writers had bothered to do a decent job of it. In all the Trek series' you don't often hear super-specific details about the past of the series unless it had already happened in a TV show. For that reason it was entirely possible that early in the history of Earth's space travel there was a large conflict (such as with the Xindi) that nobody really talks about (kind of like a War of 1812, but in space.) However, the series did such a half-assed job and made it such a ridiculous storyline that it was simply unbeleivable. That was the true failing, I think.
I don't think the whole new round of baddies would have worked out as poorly if the writers had bothered to do a decent job of it. In all the Trek series' you don't often hear super-specific details about the past of the series unless it had already happened in a TV show. For that reason it was entirely possible that early in the history of Earth's space travel there was a large conflict (such as with the Xindi) that nobody really talks about (kind of like a War of 1812, but in space.) However, the series did such a half-assed job and made it such a ridiculous storyline that it was simply unbeleivable. That was the true failing, I think.
The thing was that there WAS a large (huge) war in space in the early days of the federation -- that involved the Romulans.
Although my times maybe off, ENT maybe set a bit before then =/
-Neo
ScottieIWU
05-16-2006, 6:49 PM
The thing was that there WAS a large (huge) war in space in the early days of the federation -- that involved the Romulans.
Although my times maybe off, ENT maybe set a bit before then =/I'd say at least far enough off that ENT would have ended just short of that beginning? I'm not 100% sure either.
Protoss_Honor
05-17-2006, 3:13 PM
I read like a month or so ago that it would involve all new characters and actors, no one from previous Star Treks would be in it. But that probably just rumors. I just hope they don't mess anything up like with "Enterprise".
I don't think they can do much worse, lol.
If they work it right, this could help launch a new series.
-Neo
Do you think it will be set in a differnet time frame to TNG? I personally doubt it, but where could a new series go in the same timeline?
No, I hope it moves away from TNG. Which is why I mentioned DS9.
Voyager isn't really a possibility because they kind of wrapped that up already (Janeway end's up an admiral). But I think DS9 could hold some really cool movies -- especially since they never did get to survey/explore the Gamma Quadrant during the war.
Of course they could just move forward in time... LIke to the 29th century or something, lol.
Oh, and I doubt that none of the star trek crew will be on the team... That would be like making a star wars movie without Lucas (lol). It would be really strange, and would probably piss a ton of fans off.
-Neo
Nickodemus
05-18-2006, 5:28 AM
You know what. They should do something entirely new. How about when the whole galactic emp... erm I mean federation crumbles and whats left tries to keep the pieces together. you know sooo far in the future that it has no chance of touching any of the old krap. But i think they call that andromeda and its still on the WB. I thinks, It was even worse than enterprise ( notice the lack of geek their by not using an acronym ) which i really enjoyed the first episode, then well i threw that to the wind too. I just have a hard time with that humans giving up humanity. You know Money, power, wealth, money, etc. o well, thats just me seeing the evil in humans....
KAHNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!
That movie ROCKED!
You know what. They should do something entirely new. How about when the whole galactic emp... erm I mean federation crumbles and whats left tries to keep the pieces together. you know sooo far in the future that it has no chance of touching any of the old krap. But i think they call that andromeda and its still on the WB. I thinks, It was even worse than enterprise ( notice the lack of geek their by not using an acronym ) which i really enjoyed the first episode, then well i threw that to the wind too. I just have a hard time with that humans giving up humanity. You know Money, power, wealth, money, etc. o well, thats just me seeing the evil in humans....
You mean the Andromeda series with Kevin Sorbo as the Captain?
That show was so fucking awesome until the lead writer was booted off, I personally think they completely ruined Trance's character.
Andromeda has nothing to do with Star Trek besides being another creation of Gene's, but he greated other sci fis as well, like Earth: Final Conflict.
-Neo
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