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Revelade
05-08-2006, 11:01 PM
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149512.html
Well, I'm disgusted.
First Ken mocks it as nothing more than a gimmick, yet they take this as their own. Even worse, people are calling it an innovation. Open you eyes and see how original their controller is.
$500 console is definitely a no in my book.
Sikawtic
05-08-2006, 11:04 PM
I want PS3 bad.
Scaper-X
05-08-2006, 11:46 PM
http://sonystealnintendo.ytmnd.com/
I'm not really the console type.
-- Scaper-X
dunchy
05-09-2006, 1:12 AM
I guessed it. Go figure.
xodkrm
05-09-2006, 1:19 AM
Omg.
I am shocked.
Does Nintendo have anything to say about this?
Im going to stick with upgrading my PC., for everyone knows PC > Console.
GrassDragon
05-09-2006, 1:40 AM
Ugh. At least the 360 hasn't taken up this crap. Yet.
FYI: Nintendo isn't the first one to do a motion senstive controller.
-Neo
I really don't care beyond whether Sony manages to deliver a good console with good games or not, and based on my experience with the PS2, I should think that Sony knows what it's doing.
EvilEggCracker
05-09-2006, 5:28 PM
Well, in the end, Sony will beat Nintendo with or without this so meh.
Sirion
05-09-2006, 6:31 PM
Not many people are going to want to pay $500 for a console barely better than the Xbox360. Even developers are now saying that they about even. PS3 is doomed.
Vhaeraun
05-09-2006, 7:35 PM
Of course not for the console. PS3 and 360 are dead even in power. It all comes to games. People who care about power are obviously going to choose 360 (simply because they believe since XBox was so much more powerful than PS2, that the same is true for 360) but those who are in the console gaming for the games will be what truely decides who wins
dunchy
05-09-2006, 7:53 PM
Not many people are going to want to pay $500 for a console barely better than the Xbox360. Even developers are now saying that they about even. PS3 is doomed.
Hah. The Ps2 debuted for around that price and look where it is right now, is it really doomed? Come on now.
Vhaeraun
05-09-2006, 7:54 PM
PS2 debuted for $300 (At least around here it did... >.>)
dunchy
05-09-2006, 7:57 PM
300 American was around 500 back in release time, I'm speaking Canuck eh? Sony is still going to be the number 1 console seller, I like all games/systems but realistically speaking Sony once again is taking the cake. There's not one single game other then halo 3, which I predict will be far too rushed like number 2 to really stir my interest.
Demon_Child
05-10-2006, 5:20 AM
NeoGeo once priced at around $500 and it's graphics weren't all that much different to the SNES and it flopped because both the console and the games (worth about $100 each) were far too costly.
If Sony thinks that they can get away with that for forever then, they will meet the same fate as the NeoGeo once did about 12 years ago.
Modred
05-10-2006, 10:33 AM
Wireless controller with motion sensing != copying Nintendo
I love Nintendo, and even I'm not going to claim that this is stealing an idea. Perhaps if Nintendo weren't making the Wii have such an interesting controller, Sony wouldn't have needed to go for the updated controller (I personally liked the "batarang"). But by and large, the idea of a motion sensitive controller isn't exactly new. Remember the power glove? (OK, also Nintendo, but still, it's over 15 years old, so you can't say they're "copying" now.)
iristle
05-10-2006, 11:31 AM
i don't think they copied each other, i think i heard about the ps3 waay before the revolution. maybe it is the other way round, or they didn't copy either.
Whiteknight
05-11-2006, 3:27 AM
Um, 6 degrees of freedom? What is he on? I'm sorry, but 180 degrees beats a measly 6 any day. Even if the 6 degrees he mentions means x, y, z, pitch, yaw, and roll, the Nintendo controller is still far better to handle than the remade PS2 controller for it. By the way, the reason this is considered copying is because Sony had already announced a controller, but then decided to make a new one because people didn't like it and, lo and behold, Nintendo was doing some motion sensitivity so they decided to incorporate that into their new controller.
Hell, this is even alienating more people than it's gaining. Many are mad for it ripping off the Wii and the others hate the motion sensitivity anyways.
Really, though, it may not be quite a bad thing. I can envision games being for the Wii and PS3, but not the Xbox 360 because of this motion sensing thing. Despite my Nintendo fanboy status, competition is a good thing. Here's hoping that great things may come of this (and my prediction that 360 is soon going to unvail a "new" controller with motion sensitivity also).
Wtf. Why would you alienate people for adding a feature?
Everytime a gaming company adds motion sensitivity to thier controllers will forever be copying nintendo? FFS how lame is that?
-Neo
Whiteknight
05-11-2006, 8:26 PM
Kupo, obviously you didn't read. It's copying because they changed their controller after they already had a final design and after Nintendo's controller came out.
As such, it's alienating those who don't like the copying, especially with Sony's history of it, and it's alienating those who don't like the motion sensitivity.
hammocksleeper
05-11-2006, 9:36 PM
The way I see it, why wouldn't you want a motion-sensitive controller. I mean, you want the best possible console, right? Who cares if less than 100% of the techology was developed in-house.
By the way there's already one thread on this, but it seems to have degenerated into nastiness so I'll allow this one to stay open for now.
Modred
05-13-2006, 3:16 PM
Whiteknight does bring up a good point for Sony's lack of innovation in controllers. Note that the Dual Shock was actually the subject of a patent lawsuit, which Sony lost. xD
But I really don't care so much what Sony does for their console. I'll probably just play someone else's system until it costs around $100 (which may not happen for a long time if it's really launching for $600).
To be perfectly honest, If I have $600 to spend on a console, I'd probably spend that on a computer or computer upgrades.
-Neo
Veeger
05-16-2006, 4:54 PM
Exactly. It is not worth the money. Not to mention they are banking on a CD format (blu-ray), which I suspect will go the way of Beta in the next 10 years. There's a franchise war over the HD formats right now, with only a few companies still not commited to one format over the other. Once the last two or three heavy-hitters commit to a format, we'll see which format comes out on top.
When Blu-Ray goes under (my prediction, based upon the greater difficulty, and higher cost, to produce), Sony is going to look really stupid.
Nedech
05-17-2006, 10:54 AM
Well, in the end, Sony will beat Nintendo with or without this so meh.
Nintendo wont be a new 'Sega' or whatever you mean by that since they're earning loads of money threw the NDS, which has sold alot more than PSP.
Ontopic - It's defently not worth all that money ;_;
Sauvastika
05-21-2006, 12:19 PM
From one of the comments on the GS article:
just to cover sony did NOT copy nintendo. they have been working on motion sensing since 2003.
here's proof
http://sony.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/4815/
nintendo just announced it first
So it seems like they've had motion-sensitivity in the works for a while now and has planned its inclusion into the PS3 for a while, as well.
EvilEggCracker
05-21-2006, 2:31 PM
Whos copying who now! Sony was in the right! Now whos the evil dictator? *cough* Bill Gates *cough*
Revelade
05-22-2006, 3:54 AM
From one of the comments on the GS article:
So it seems like they've had motion-sensitivity in the works for a while now and has planned its inclusion into the PS3 for a while, as well.
Er that barely explains anything at all and implies that they were going to use CAMERA'S to detect motion, not through a controller.
Sony does have a bit of a history of grabing ideas from nintendo...
Remeber the day of the N64 V PS, long before the PS had inbuilt rumble pads (or whatever lol), Lylat wars 64 was released bunbled with no extra cost a N64 rumble pack controller add-on and surprisiling 3 months later PS had new controllers with in-built rumble pads. Now really this is just sony keeping up with nintendo but the question is how long would it take sony to get in-built rumble pads in their controllers if nintendo never made the N64 rumble pack?
Sony does have a bit of a history of grabing ideas from nintendo...
Remeber the day of the N64 V PS, long before the PS had inbuilt rumble pads (or whatever lol), Lylat wars 64 was released bunbled with no extra cost a N64 rumble pack controller add-on and surprisiling 3 months later PS had new controllers with in-built rumble pads. Now really this is just sony keeping up with nintendo but the question is how long would it take sony to get in-built rumble pads in their controllers if nintendo never made the N64 rumble pack?
Sony's rumble controllers were a helluva lot better then N64's rumblepack shit.
-Neo
Im not saying that nintendo's rumble pack was better u brought that up..... I merely said how long would it take sony to get in-built rumble pads in their controllers if nintendo never made the N64 rumble pack?
EvilEggCracker
05-24-2006, 2:41 PM
Not very?
starcraft787878
05-26-2006, 4:50 PM
You dinks. PS3 is going to rock. Microfools rushed out the 360 WAY too fukking soon. PS3 is perfecting. They will run Xbox out of buisness.
King_Critter
05-26-2006, 8:41 PM
It's the Wii now, not the Revolution.
[insert nintendo fanboy quote here]
I don't think sony will be completly screwed becuase of the PS3s price (but I'm still hoping!) although they might lose a few customers. But Nintendo will defenitly catch up, and this "console war" will be much more even then the last.
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