Who would win Orc or Marine?

[MegaNuke]

i was recently reading a fourm about who would win (enterprise vs death star) and thought who would win war3 Orc or Marine.

[MidnightGladius]

Hmm... this isn't really that hard to decide...

War3 Orc (grunt, I'm assuming): Arcanite (some sort of heavy metal, I'm guessing) Axe, similar plate body armor, with that weird Frenzy thing.

SC Marine: Depleted Uranium-238 (used for anti-tank rounds >.<) Gauss Rifle, CMC Suit made of neo-steel (5x harder than diamond), and Stim Packs. Not to mention grenades, rockets, and other addon weaponry.

One shot from a U238 Gauss round is enough to kill an Orc. Consider that each Marine attack frame fires a barrage of such rounds, and that it fires in such a way about 3 times every 2 seconds on stim, is it really that hard to figure out?

[SuiCidAl-KiSmEt]

Although, Space Orcs and Space Marines are much diffreant. In WarCraft III, they're are Space Orcs (as a bonus charector for campains). That'll be a little tougher to decide.

[MidnightGladius]

You mean the Orks from WH40k?

One on one, SM would still own them.

[kongurous]

In Warhammer 40k, in a one-on-one fight, it depends on the range.

A Warcraft 3 orc vs a Starcraft marine? Uh... marine. He's trained to shoot at the head and chest for christ's sake.

[SuiCidAl-KiSmEt]

heh, you guys don't have WarCraft III. If you put one StarCraft Marine and one WarCraft Space Orc on a map and have them attack eachother, the Space Orc will win 'couse its stronger. But thats only in the game...

[GrassDragon]

It would take several War3 Orcs to down a Marine if they had to come at him from a range.

[U-238]

Marine>WII Orc. Orcs simply can't cut it.

Lol it's nice to see my name getting out.

[DarkLStrike]

There's like a unit in War III campaign similar to a SC marine. (You can also get zergling and hydralisk in WAR III i think) try to use that to compare.

[Giantfish]

But the space orc in Warcraft III cheats, he's using Terran tech!

[Snot]

In Warhammer 40k, in a one-on-one fight, it depends on the range.

A Warcraft 3 orc vs a Starcraft marine? Uh... marine. He's trained to shoot at the head and chest for christ's sake.

I love you too Skip...:D

Anyway. The Marine would win, simple. If his rifle didn't take down the Orc in one barrage... which I don't see happening... the Marine's armor adds strength and mobility, meaning, hand in hand, the Marine would break the Orcs' wrist in two with a snap of his hand. And a kick to the groin... the Orc would more than likely die of internal bleeding or lack of pride...

[MegaNuke]

orcs can take a beating though and they're 7-8 feet tall, 3-4 feet wide, and all muscle which would intimidate pretty much anyone that sees it charging them.

[Spartan-II]

Marines have neural implants that override fear and clear the Marines head.

Marine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orc

[MegaNuke]

orcs are like bears, you shoot em and they just get angrier

[Spartan-II]

The Orc would die from a three round burst to the head. Even if it got to melee range, the Marines suit would protect him.

[MegaNuke]

orcs have very thick skulls. plus with thier bix axe could likely put a pretty big dent in the marine armor.
Besides the adrenaline rush would keep it alive. so it could be technically dead and still beat the crap out of a marine.

[kongurous]

Hypersonic depleted uranium spike > bone.

[Sub-Focus]

Just face it man, the Orc would get it's ass kicked.

[DarkLStrike]

indeed

[SarahK]

MegaNuke, where's your avatar from? very cool hydralisk pic, never seen before

[thegr8anand]

MegaNuke, where's your avatar from? very cool hydralisk pic, never seen before

ya even i would like to know. very cool pic MegaNuke.

[IrishDutchman]

It's a SC:G screenshot.

and try to remember that the Marine suit is NeoSteel (5x harder than diamond) as someone said, even in melee combat, the Marine would own cause of his suit.

[frazz]

For all of you warhammmer 40k people out there, try to remember that the space marines have their power armor(not to mention terminator armour) and they still et crushed to bits. Plus they are already the best of humanity even before they become space marines, whereas the terrans are the dirt trash of humanity, scoopped up off the streets. The space marines have power armor to give them added strength and are genetically enhanced and given an extra heart and other extra vital organs. The terrans step into their suits and jump out of their dropship with a "We're in for some chops" greeting. The space marines have rapid fir flying missiles roughly the siz of an average head. The terrans have comparable titanium spikes that don't explode on impact.
Now lets recap

Space marines...........Terran marines

Best of humanity........Trash off the streets
Power armour............Equivalent armor(I think)
Genetically enhanced..Genetically de enhanced(via ghost program)
Extra vital organs.......Zip
Head size missile........Titanium nail

Which one looks a little better than the other?
Now, the space marines still die when they are shot at(sometimes) and get their butts kicked in close combat.
The terrans have no close combat capability. If the space marines are killable by the orcs, do you think the terran marine would have it easy? Now, he might get in a good shot at range, but that's not a guaruntee. Plus the orcs have guns as well. If they get up close, the terran is dead.
As for WC3 vs Sc marine. No contest there.

[ShadeZ]

Why are you comparing fantasy to science fiction? Science fiction wins except vs magic users, simply because of the differance in technology.

However, If the orc snuck up on the marine, it would win, because it is bigger and it would knock the gun from the marine's hand, and kill him with pure strength.

But the marine would then be an idiot for letting an enormous creature sneak up on him.

[MegaNuke]

im pretty shure i got the pic from http://www.sclegacy.com/ghost/units.php but i might have found it somewhere else.:confused:

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[starcraft787878]

Back on subject....I'd say the Marine wins.

[MegaNuke]

a zergling can punch through terran armor and im pretty shure that an orc would beat the crap out of a zergling, which is why i thought of this whole comparasion

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[MidnightGladius]

Hmm, I doubt even that (an orc grunt beating a ling), simply because the ling is about 50x faster/more agile than the grunt, plus its weapons are much more maneuverable and are edged with diamond (heck, upgradeable diamond). Plus, lings are horde-crazy - lings always travel in packs of at least 3 or 4 (read this on SC:G site somewhere), so I think the grunt is just out of luck.

[MegaNuke]

an 800 pound orc with a 200 pound axe, 1 on 1 an orc would win

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[DarkLStrike]

exactly. Since Zerglings uses Minerals to up their armor and weapons(saw this in SC Manuel some where), i'd say the zergs' blades/scythes/claws are as effective as the marines' bullets. It says on the manuel that the mineral is melted to form neo-steel. And because of that, the carapace should be as strong as the marine's armor.

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[MidnightGladius]

an 800 pound orc with a 200 pound axe, 1 on 1 an orc would win

Power isn't everything. If your 800 pound orc with his 200 pound axe can never hit the zerglings once, simply because of their speed, the orc is doomed. Especially since the lings can easily aim for the arms/legs first, rendering the orc basically useless for fighting.

[MegaNuke]

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thanks


Space marines...........Terran marines

Best of humanity........Trash off the streets
Power armour............Equivalent armor(I think)
Genetically enhanced..Genetically de enhanced(via ghost program)
Extra vital organs.......Zip
Head size missile........Titanium nail

Which one looks a little better than the other?
Now, the space marines still die when they are shot at(sometimes) and get their butts kicked in close combat.
The terrans have no close combat capability. If the space marines are killable by the orcs, do you think the terran marine would have it easy? Now, he might get in a good shot at range, but that's not a guaruntee.

can someone help me open timespace rifts so i can test it?

[kongurous]

MegaNuke, where's your avatar from? very cool hydralisk pic, never seen before

PMs exist for a reason.

an 800 pound orc with a 200 pound axe, 1 on 1 an orc would win

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Orcs do not weigh 800 pounds. An 800 pound is sumo wrestler material, and even they weigh 600 or so pounds. Orcs are not fat (for the most part) and while they do have muscle, it's kinda hard to say they weigh 800 pounds. While they are significantly stronger than humans, a 200 pound axe with be a challenge for them.

Heavy weapons are NOT better. If you can swing faster, you hit faster and are more likely to kill. An axe that has a crapload of weight will be hard to swing... and the advantage of the axe is the blow is centered to the cutting edge of the axe and if you can swing it, the momentum will cause a very damaging wound.

A Terran Marine shoots a hypersonic spike of titanium or depleted uranium, depending on the upgrade. Hypersonic means faster than sound. A spike... is well, a spike. Orcs in Warcraft have died from getting hit with spikes. These spikes are made to rip up armor and flesh, hence why they're spikes. Orcs typically do not wear armor (look at an Orc grunt. Or any Orc for that matter.) save pauldrons and helmets.

It's common sense for any soldier to shoot at the body. That's basic firearm training for any soldier in any military. Since Orcs do not usually wear armor on their chest and I'm using a Grunt vs a Marine for this comparison, the Marine will logically shoot at the torso. Even if he doesn't, the Orc is probably packing a steel/thorium helmet... well, Terran Marine armor is Neosteel. That's probably stronger than any medieval metal.

So, let's run down this again...

Orc Armor: Steel or Thorium helmet and pauldron
Marine Armor: Neo-steel

Orc Weapon: axe that weighs anywhere from 20 to 50lbs(bear in mind, 50 pounds is fucking heavy for any weapon, Orcish or not. Even the Orcs would realize that heavy shit = not good for war and I'm being generous about weight.)
Marine Weapon: Gauss rifle that shoots titanium/depleted uranium spikes.

Orc Training: Trained from birth how to fight with a close-range weapon.
Marine Training: Trained for about 2 or so months how to shoot for the vitals and other essentials

Orc physiology: Large, heavily muscled. Probably has thick bones.
Marine physiology: varies widely, usually about 6 feet or so in height with muscle density varying.

It's been shown in Warcraft that a Dwarven gun can pierce Orcish skin and bone. The Dwarves use basic blackpowder blunderbusses while the Marines have advanced gauss rifles with spikes designed to rip up flesh, bone, and armor. Your bone mass and density is therefore nulled.

Since Grunts must get close to attack (or throw their axe, which can be dodged or shot, but this is not a normal circumstance), the Marine has an advantage. The Marine also has a gun, which against an unarmored target will win out.

The Marine, under normal circumstances, will win.

[MegaNuke]

where do you find weapon/armor schematics?

[kongurous]

where do you find weapon/armor schematics?

I'm going by my knowledge of medieval weaponry, the Starcraft manual, and my knowledge of Warcraft.

If an axe is heavy, it is harder to pick up. If you cannot pick up a weapon, it is useless. A heavy sword is not good, likewise, a heavy axe is not necessarily better.

The Vikings were fond of the axe. It had the power to cut through most kinds of armor, even if it was a light weapon. The Vikings would likely use a shield in conjunction with the axe. Notice that Orcish grunts carry their axe with one hand. This suggests that the axe is light enough to be carried by one hand, and considering the strength of an Orc, and from the Warcraft books it mentions humans picking up Orcish weapons out of necessity, we must assume that your standard Grunt's Axe is light enough to be used effectively by a human footman yet strong enough to suit an Orc.

And further weight against your original statement that a Grunt weighs 800 pounds. We have no source of an Orc's muscle mass or density. We can look at an Orcish grunt's body and compare that to a human body of similar build, it appears that your average Orcish Grunt has a body similar to your modern bodybuilder. Bodybuilders don't weigh 800 pounds. A more accurate number would be 300 pounds, given what information we have.

[Giantfish]

Even if an Orcish grunt can take a good amount of shots, a marine on a stim pack can pull that trigger pretty damn fast...

Though I have no idea how that's possible considering the gauss rifle is suppose to be an automatic...

[MidnightGladius]

I'm guessing the pause in the Marine's attack is balance-induced :/

[DarkLStrike]

or he's firing at 3-round-bursts instead of auto

[MidnightGladius]

Actually, if you look at the GRP, it seems that the rine is firing about 40-50 rounds per attack cycle.

Maybe U238 hypersonic rounds aren't as strong as one would have thought :/

[DarkLStrike]

In that case, maybe the clips got only 40-50 rounds and he needs to reload to fire again. It explains y he fires faster in stimmed, he reloads extra fast! (Eh disregard the cinematics, they ruin every theory i made).

U238 hypersonic rounds sucks. In BW begining cinematics one marine cant even damage a zergling with a hundred or so rounds, assuming he misses some times.

[kongurous]

That marine in the beginning cinematics missed a LOT. Did you see how much his gun bounced? He probably had a case of shell shock at the time as well. I still say a Marine would win.

[MegaNuke]

first of all, I never said "grunt" i said "war3 orc" if it was a orc shaman he would kick the crap outta marines

[kongurous]

first of all, I never said "grunt" i said "war3 orc" if it was a orc shaman he would kick the crap outta marines

Two things: 1) be more fuckin specific then, and 2) a shaman can't do squat against spikes travelling faster than sound.

[MegaNuke]

balls of lightning + steel armor = fried marine

[Snot]

Carefully placed hypersonic round to the head at one mile= Dead Shaman.

Marines have range and accuracy, as well as firepower. Give up, the Orc could only wish of winning this fight in that pea brain of his, he’s outmatched and out gunned.

[kongurous]

balls of lightning + steel armor = fried marine

Shamans don't wear steel armor. They wear skins and leather, and a bullet/spike goes farther and faster than any ball of lightning conjured up by some petty magician.

[gordomay]

It would be interesting to see it happen, in game. I know the Marine would kick some Orc butt.

[Snot]

Some Orc butt? Marine with fully auto machine rifle that fires supersonic rounds= MANY DEAD ORCS!!!!

[DarkLStrike]

Shamans don't wear steel armor. They wear skins and leather, and a bullet/spike goes farther and faster than any ball of lightning conjured up by some petty magician.

No matter steel or no steel, the spikes can tear it apart like paper.

[IrishDutchman]

Orcs are essentialy just extremely powerful humanoids with medieval equipment. A marine is a humanoid from the distant future with some of the most advanced technology of that time.
So, the orc's main advantages are his strength and superhuman battle prowess.
The marine's adavantage is technology. This technology features a CMC-400 powersuit, which is extremely resistant and heavy, but the marine ain't bothered by it because the suit also has engines in the joints to make it at least as strong, if not stronger than to orc.
So, so far: Orc Strength=Marine Strength. The orc's advantage is nullified.
Weapons:
The orc has an axe for melee combat, while a marine has a super powerful Gauss Rifle. No competition, the Orc would die before he could blink.
Orcish Axe<<<Gauss Rifle

This has been said many times, why won't you take no for an answer?
If you ask me, a soldier with an M16 could probasbly take on an orc, because he would kill it before it reached him.

[ShadeZ]

I think a more fair question is whether or not a marine could take on a demon

[MidnightGladius]

Hmm... you mean the bat-things that threw fire at you from War2, or the Burning Legion-type Doom Guard demon?

First one would just be like fighting a Mutalisk, whereas the second would be pretty much impossible. Sleep+Flaming Club = owned Marine.

[ShadeZ]

Hmm, yes, but I don't think 1v1's are really that likely. Probably, to better ask the question, who would win: The terrans, or the burning legion?

And a marine can't beat a mutalisk 1v1 anyway ;)

[MidnightGladius]

When I said "just like fighting a Mutalisk", I was implying that both would end in failure for the Marine :/

[frazz]

can someone help me open timespace rifts so i can test it?
I'm sorry, was taht meant to be a rebuttal?

Well, when you take out the balances given to the marine ingame(range and such) he would kill all demons. Unless you take out the balances given to the demons(decreased overall awesomeness) they would pwn everything. Giant fireball = death.

[MegaNuke]

if the marine and grunt where heros (grom hellscream vs raynor) orc would win

[gordomay]

That marine in the beginning cinematics missed a LOT. Did you see how much his gun bounced? He probably had a case of shell shock at the time as well. I still say a Marine would win.

Also in that same opening cinematics the guy that shoots the zerglings, is using only his greanade launcher and takes out both of them with one shot each. Just think what that would do on an Orc.:o

[MidnightGladius]

if the marine and grunt where heros (grom hellscream vs raynor) orc would win

Not really, if we're talking about the not-chaotic-Grom. Raynor gets even better shells (3x stronger than normal rines'), plus a better armor suit. Grom just gets a big sword instead of a big axe and a lot of anger. Well, BM abilities, too, so let's stretch this a bit.

Suppose Grom uses Wind Walk and sneaks up on Raynor. Suppose he gets off a swing. Suppose that it gets a Critical Strike. Woop-de-do; it makes a dent in Raynor's armor. A small, small dent. Even if you decided to pull a storm, it still wouldn't be enough to break through super-reinforced CMC armor. Then, the WW would be over, and Raynor would just shoot a couple hundred rounds in Grom. The end.

[DarkLStrike]

Also in that same opening cinematics the guy that shoots the zerglings, is using only his greanade launcher and takes out both of them with one shot each. Just think what that would do on an Orc.:o

Thought that was goliath in the back ground firing missiles. Cuz every time that thing walks, the ground shook.

[gordomay]

Thought that was goliath in the back ground firing missiles. Cuz every time that thing walks, the ground shook.

Are we takling about the same thing, I'm talking about the cinematic opening on brood war!

[PaleGrim]

War3 Orc can be a Blademaster. Blademaster using windwalk= Dead marine.

[gordomay]

War3 Orc can be a Blademaster. Blademaster using windwalk= Dead marine.
Yes if he gets him in the face. No sword could penetrate the armor they wear! The only exposed area is the face. Could happen if it was a stealth operation, and it was a one on one.:)

[DarkLStrike]

Are you talking about the bw opening thing where the marine ran out of ammo and was trapped by two zerglings?

The thing that saved him was a missile turrent i think, fired 2 missiles and killed the lings that were just standing there.

You can clearly see the missile turrent / goliath before it fired the missiles.

[GrassDragon]

Must have been a goliath then, as missile turrets don't usually shoot zerglings...

[gordomay]

Please watch it again, when the marine turns to the other marine sitting down the rifle that he is holding is smoking from the greanade(sorrry for the spelling) launcher. Grassdragon is right the turrets only shot air targets. I also don't see a Goliath there either.:)

[Snot]

It was the second Marine who shot the two Zerglings. Not a Goliath or a Missile Turret.

[frazz]

Are you talking about the bw opening thing where the marine ran out of ammo and was trapped by two zerglings?

The thing that saved him was a missile turrent i think, fired 2 missiles and killed the lings that were just standing there.

You can clearly see the missile turrent / goliath before it fired the missiles.
Must have been a goliath then, as missile turrets don't usually shoot zerglings...
You guys should go get an eye exam, cuz ur blinder than bats! Watch it again. The 'rine turns around and sees his buddy holding a smokin' gun. OBVIOUS!!!!!

And people try to keep in mind that a marine can withstand an artillery round from a tank! He can also withstand frag grenades and such. I don't think a little knife doohicky would do much at all.

[DarkLStrike]

well, the other marine just sat there and "swinging" on the chair, i dont think he did anything useful.

[Snot]

So... saving another persons life is doing nothing now huh?

Wow... can I say this? RETARDED!!!

The Marine fired ont he two Zerglings, using up his last rounds to save the other guy. Then he condemed himself to a death of rock and roll and deadly aliens.

[DarkLStrike]

Watch it again, when the rocket exploded on the zergling, the first marine turned around and saw the second marine sitting in a rocking chair-like thing. There is no way the second marine can fire then sit down in a chair and start rocking that fast. So ur theory is invalid.

[Snot]

He's sitting in the side of the trench, he never stood. One can fire a weapon in the sitting postion. He never had to stand or change position. The recoil of the rifle wouldn't even rock him back if he fired it, which he did.

[SolidSamurai]

What about (In "real life" terms) an army (20,000) or so grunts versus a space marine.

Lets see, how much ammo would the marine have? His suit can hold about a few dozen or so clips, each containing 200 rounds or so (just a guess). Each round consists of depleted uranium laced armor piercing rounds made of whatever the hell you want them to be made of... hell it could be lab produced NEOled for all I care lolol.

So ya, they fire at the speed of sound at least. Each round could cut through a few grunts, armor included. He'd probably waste a couple thousand before running out of ammo, and outrunning them with his suit power lolol. If his visor was open, theyd stab through there with spears and crap. Ya. That wouldnt happen though.

[MidnightGladius]

Economically speaking, 20k grunts does not equal 1 Marine. Maybe 20k:10, and that would simply tip the scales further.

[GrassDragon]

20,000 grunts could easily kill 10 marines. Come on...

[ShadeZ]

I think that what you're forgetting is that the grunts aren't stupid.

They wont attack a hugely reinforced armor plating of a marine, they'll go for the weapon. No weapon, no victory, because these marines are not very strong, and much slower with all that heavy armor. Basically, the grunts run in, break the weapons, the shaman come from behind and electrocute them

However, this situation would require the grunts to outnumber the marines about 4:1, or sneak up on them.

[starcraft787878]

Damn, 2,000 Orcs would catch up on 1 marine before he got a round off! Besides, even if they didn't catch up and circle the marine, the marine wouldn't be able to run, and especially WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DESTROY AN ARMY OF ORCS. In 1v1 however, Marine wins without a problem.

[Snot]

Sorry to tell you guys. The Marine could out run and more than likely match the Orc in the POWER armor. That mechine like suits the Marines wear, increase speed and strength of the user by 10 fold. And more than likely, the Marines are trained in CQC, seeing as how they have to deal with Zerglings on a near dialy basis.

Yeah, 1 marine could take on 50 Orcs, run, shoot, run, shoot... or he could mow them all down and sit back and enjoy a cigy.

[Giantfish]

Nevermind, Snot explained everything before I clicked the post button...

*Edited for already mentioned info

[MidnightGladius]

10 Entrenched Marines on superior terrain can easily kill 20k Orcs. Line them up and mow them down.

[GrassDragon]

10 Entrenched Marines on superior terrain can easily kill 20k Orcs. Line them up and mow them down.
Trenches are one thing. I think 2000:1 in trenches is doable. On open ground, I just can't see it happening. Remember that these are just marines, they're not super heroes.

[xodkrm]

Orc would win vs marines by stats.
Take away the stats, put em into RL, marine would win.
Why?
Well, everyone knows guns > knives / swords ect

[Snot]

Stats don't mean squat. HP and attack strengths vary in each game. What may be one attack in WC, may be another in SC... the only thing we can do is estimate in REAL life, how these units would act.

Marine fires rifle, may miss a few time, but will eventually hit the Orc. The Orc may throw his knife and try to kill the amrored Marine, although it may do nothing, he may land a good sized blow to the Marines face.

The Orc and Marine are equal in strength due to the Marines armor, simple. The Marine has the range advantage, and could more than likely out run the large Orc, maintaining a field of fire at all times.

[IrishDutchman]

Don't forget that Marine armor is also far superior, and pretty much impossbile to dent with any normal melee weapon, while the Orc armor isn't an issue at all for hypersonic titanium spikes.

[MidnightGladius]

Also, the visor plate for the marine is heavily reinforced diamond-composite glass = you're not breaking that very easily, at all.

[U-238]

Isn't this getting a little... ...old? I mean we've already siad that the marine would win. (But one more question... If the Marines armor is that hard to break. Then howcome in the first BW movie, the intro, the marine got diced pretty easily by that hydra who just attacked with bone. Explain that.)

[Giantfish]

The Hydralisk in Warcraft 3 deals like 80-110 damage per hit, the orc grunt does like 20...

[MidnightGladius]

Hydralisk scythes (just like Zergling claws and Ultralisk Blades) are edged with Minerals, which are the basic component of neosteel (most Terran armor). It's like cutting diamonds with diamonds - if you put enough strength behind it, it'll break.

The last time I checked, Grunt blades are NOT made out of Minerals/Neosteel.

[U-238]

Ahhhhh.... I see. But ehh. How did hydras/zerglings/ultras figure out to edge their claws with mineral?

[DarkLStrike]

DA Overmind! or its written in their genes. Either way, it says in the manuel that they reinforce their carapace n claws with minerals. Thats y to spawn them, you need minerals.

[U-238]

Huh, You're right. I don't read the manual often. So I guess you're right.

[frazz]

Since when does the power armor mechanize? It is clear from the game they go just as fast as a civilian. I was pretty sure the armor was just, well, armor.

[Snot]

Read the fluff avout the armor. IN all the books. It tells that the armor is powered and mechinized so that the Marine has to do almost nothing. And the speeds for the game mean nothing.

[Neu(t)ral Damage]

I think this thread is pretty much settled.

Marine>Orc

Besides, a Shaman uses magic. There's no magic allowed in the Koprulu sector!

[DarkLStrike]

There is Psionic Power, i.e. Psionic Storm. Zaps the hell outta those rines!

and in-game sprites means nothing. Civilians doesnt even wear armor to get 40hp, same as marine.

[IrishDutchman]

Since when does the power armor mechanize? It is clear from the game they go just as fast as a civilian. I was pretty sure the armor was just, well, armor

That armour is fucking heavy, how would a marine even move without some kind of mech?

[DarkLStrike]

In the StarCraft universe, a Terran Firebat is a unit equipped with flamethrowers and powered armor that's heavier than the standard Marine armor.

And the powered armor is explained over here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powered_armor

[Neu(t)ral Damage]

ya guys have some imagination

[psycho42b]

Since when does the power armor mechanize? It is clear from the game they go just as fast as a civilian. I was pretty sure the armor was just, well, armor. who said the civilians don't have their own form of armor?

[Snot]

Common sense for one… when you think civilian, think… business men, house wives, as well as little children on their way to school… WHY IN THE HELL WOULD THE GOVERNMENT GIVE THE CIVILIANS ARMOR!?

[crystal679]

Because they're in a warzone... Or perhaps the lack of breathable air..

[IrishDutchman]

In WW2, did any civilians wear armor?

As for air, wouldn't a little ozygen tank or whatever they need to breathe work without combat armor?


BTW, a 'lil off topic, but is it 'armour' or 'armor' ?

[DarkLStrike]

BTW, a 'lil off topic, but is it 'armour' or 'armor' ?

Its armor for Americans and armour for english and canadians. Im a canadian and still use armor cuz its easier to write.

[IrishDutchman]

haha, thanks, It was really bugging me.
I live in holland, so where does that put me? :P

[DarkLStrike]

haha, thanks, It was really bugging me.
I live in holland, so where does that put me? :P

Well i guess ur near england, so um... ARMOUR!

[ShadeZ]

haha, thanks, It was really bugging me.
I live in holland, so where does that put me? :P

America is the only place where it's armor.

[Snot]

Yeah... so... point still stands... armor... easyer to spell... armour... sounds french...

[frazz]

Just curios, with that heavy armo(u)r wouldn't the marine NEED the mechanization? And wouldn't it just balance out the lack of the actual person doing anything?
And in-game, the civilian doesn't look like he's wearing armo(u)r.

[DarkLStrike]

the civilian is not wearing any armor, i think they just made him 40hp and same speed cuz of balancing reasons in most campaigns.

[MidnightGladius]

Yeah, BW T2 would be much harder if you had to work with 5hp Pilots :/

[Neu(t)ral Damage]

Im a canadian

I love Canadia.

[MatGeo]

I love Canadia.

Isn't it I love Canada????
Anyway Marine would win Orcs are OWNED!

[starcraft787878]

Wow, this is long. Everyone knows that Marine would win...