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pixels
05-06-2006, 7:48 PM
Weeks start on Mondays.
It's called 'the weekend' for a reason. Not the weekstart and weekend, fool. And don't even try to say 'ITS AT THE ENDS OF THE WEEK HRRK'. No. Weeks start on Mondays and end on Sundays.
Right?
SHISHKABOB
05-06-2006, 7:51 PM
Yeah and since we go by the Christian calendar God rested on the last day of the week, Sunday so Monday was the first day.
ScottieIWU
05-06-2006, 8:03 PM
Um, there is no "Christian Calendar." Only the week, which is a completely arbitrary calendar, is really in any way related to the Bible.
Anyway, the week begins on Sunday. That's why calendars go S M Tu W Th F S, and not M Tu W Th F S S.
Spartan-II
05-06-2006, 8:05 PM
The week begins on Monday. Work and School start on Monday, so it's the start of MY week.
SHISHKABOB
05-06-2006, 8:06 PM
Uh.. the Christian calendar is the reason why the year is 2006. 2006 years after Christ was born.
ScottieIWU
05-06-2006, 8:07 PM
Uh.. the Christian calendar is the reason why the year is 2006. 2006 years after Christ was born.Yes, but it's not the reason why the year is divided up as it is into months. That's based off of astronomical phenom. Christian religion only technically dictates the number of the year, not the length or division thereof.
SHISHKABOB
05-06-2006, 8:09 PM
It also is the reason why Sunday is called Sunday and also why there are 7 days in the week. 7 "days" of creation.
ScottieIWU
05-06-2006, 8:19 PM
But the division of weeks is completely unnecessary and arbitrary and is not based on any kind of astronomical phenomenon, so it's not important in any way whatsoever. The months could just as easily have been divided into three "weeks" of ten days a piece, with the last week occasionally having an extra day.
Anyway, just because god rested on sunday doesn't mean that's the end of the week. Again, look at a calendar and tell me that Sunday is not the start of the week.
That is, unless by start you actually meant the second, in which case Monday would then be the first day of the week.
pixels
05-06-2006, 8:32 PM
it has nothing to do with religion.
russian calendars have it right, as im sure others do: weeks start on monday.
ScottieIWU
05-06-2006, 8:35 PM
russian calendars have it right, as im sure others do: weeks start on monday.Then isn't it very possible that the start of the week is cultural?
pixels
05-06-2006, 8:35 PM
well, it is.
but it should be monday. because it just makes sense.
ScottieIWU
05-06-2006, 8:46 PM
but it should be monday. because it just makes sense.Not really to me, I see Sunday as the day of rest and renewal that begins my week. Monday through Friday afternoon are the days that wipe me out mentally, Friday and Saturday I destroy my liver, and then the week is over, back to renewal.
SHISHKABOB
05-06-2006, 8:58 PM
so... you rest and renew yourself before you start your week? I like to rest after I work...
If you party all night you're in for one BAD monday.
Check your calendars, it starts on Sunday.
Maybe monday would be a better start for the week, but IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!
It might as well be tuesday, it just doesn't matter.
And yes, seven days of creation seven days of the week. In Israel Saturday was the last day and the day of rest. Sunday was then the beggining. Christians kinda shifted the day to sunday(ressurection day) while leaving it at the beggining of the week.
Again, it doesn't matter.
GrassDragon
05-06-2006, 10:20 PM
This argument is worse than the SW vs. ST argument...
Sunday is the last day of the week sometimes (as in the weekend), and is the first day of the week other times (like on a calendar).
I win.
TinyDancer
05-06-2006, 11:02 PM
This argument is worse than the SW vs. ST argument...
Sunday is the last day of the week sometimes (as in the weekend), and is the first day of the week other times (like on a calendar).
I win.
Yeah, that. Usually I think of Monday as the beginning, but calendars beg to differ. It depends on the situation, like a lot of things.
dunchy
05-06-2006, 11:09 PM
http://www.cymoro.com/hotlink/Dumbass.jpg
Sorry for the picture...but this thread is pretty spammish. Mondays I guess?
Darmago
05-07-2006, 1:28 AM
I always thought of the week like a rope bent into a circle, there are two ends, one end at the beginning of the rope, the other at the end of it. but both are called ends of the rope...
Also I think that Sunday is the beginning of the week because saturday was the jewish sabbath, and thus the day god rested...
its amazing how much control dead people have over our lives. we should make up a new week structure just to be different
Pisces
05-07-2006, 5:54 AM
FU Pixels! My week starts on Wensday, why didn't you include it in the poll you culturally insensitive *******!
J/k. My week starts when I am born and ends when I am dead, no I am not just alive for a week but for me a week is 7 days with no start or stop. It might be handy for me to set a start and stop for a week so I can easily commicate time dates onto people ("Friday next week") but since nobody agrees on the start of the week anyway I just say "Sunday", "next Sunday", "the Sunday after next" and "next week" means in ~7 days, if I had a set start of the week then it would mean anything from in 1-14 days depending on what day of the week it is and when I define the start of the week.
Here where I live Saturday is the weekend, so, eh, yeah... I vote #2.
GrimTerror
05-07-2006, 12:18 PM
Why the hell should religion have a part in the order of society at all? Not only are all religions unproven, but what about the atheists...?
Week starts on a Monday, End of. We work during the week, rest on a weekend. Cycle continues on and on, but we always start working on the Monday...
Forget religion. Jeez...
What the hell, Grim? You're not thinking it though.
I'm an atheist, and I'm very happy about the fact that religion plays a big role in my everyday life. What would I do without all of the cool holidays? Without them, all that left is the day for memory of the holocaust, the day for memory of those who died defending the country during wars... independence day, yay, but still, holidays spice up the calendar.
Since I'm not a religionist, I use this to get the best from both worlds. I don't have to go to a synagogue, and yet I still get free two weeks on Passover. I get 1/7 of the year removed due to the fact god was a lazyass on the seventh day! How the hell can anyone oppose to that!?
Week start on Sunday. Start of story. Week ends on Saturday. End of story.
RavagedMind
05-07-2006, 1:42 PM
Well actually in some countries weeks start on Sunday but in my country they start on Monday so.... It's monday :)
Valjean
05-07-2006, 1:48 PM
Why the hell should religion have a part in the order of society at all? Not only are all religions unproven, but what about the atheists...?
Week starts on a Monday, End of. We work during the week, rest on a weekend. Cycle continues on and on, but we always start working on the Monday...
Forget religion. Jeez...
Okay, YOU make an atheist calendar then. See how many people use it.
TranquilNightElf
05-07-2006, 1:49 PM
Monday..
It's called 'the weekend' for a reason. Not the weekstart and weekend, fool.
Nuff said :P
Monday reigns as the Start of the week.
Though that still doesn't make me like em any better
~TNE
hammocksleeper
05-07-2006, 1:56 PM
Yeah and since we go by the Christian calendar God rested on the last day of the week, Sunday so Monday was the first day.
You guys have it all wrong. God didn't rest on Sunday, he rested on Saturday. Which is why Jews observe the Sabbath on Saturday. In the early formation of the Christian church, the Sabbath was moved to remind us of the day of Christ's resurrection.
it has nothing to do with religion.
russian calendars have it right, as im sure others do: weeks start on monday.
The Russian calendar starts on Monday because of religion. The predominant religion in Russia is Eastern Orthodoxy, which is analgous to Catholicism before the schism in 1054. The Russians' week starts on Monday because it is the day after the Sabbath. Spanish and Latin American countries, which are overwhelmingly Catholic, also have their week start on Monday. The United States views Sunday as the first day of the week in the Jewish tradition, the first day of Creation, or the day after the Jewish Sabbath.
pixels
05-07-2006, 2:11 PM
when i say it has nothing to do with religion its because i dont care
yes historically thats why things are the way they are but its monday -> sunday because thats how things work.
Darmago
05-07-2006, 2:12 PM
Why the hell should religion have a part in the order of society at all? Not only are all religions unproven, but what about the atheists...?
Week starts on a Monday, End of. We work during the week, rest on a weekend. Cycle continues on and on, but we always start working on the Monday...
Forget religion. Jeez...
its not religion that plays such a big part, its history. and history was immensly swayed by religion back in the day that people were deciding which day of the week to start on.
its not religion that plays such a big part, its history. and history was immensly swayed by religion back in the day that people were deciding which day of the week to start on.
What's the difference between religion and history anyway? Both of them are descriptions of the past that were written in an non-objective way, so as far as anyone cares both are just as true as they're not.
If at all, I'd say that location is what really matters. Once again, here where I live, people speak Hebrew, and in Hebrew we don't have very creative names for stuff like days, so we just call them:
Day A // First Day (Yom Rishon)
Day B // Second Day (Yom Sheni)
Day C // Third Day (Yom Shlishi)
Day D // Fourth Day (Yom Revi'i)
Day E // Fifth Day (Yom Hamishi)
Day F // Sixth Day (Yom Shishi)
Shabbat // ...Shabbat
Day A is Sunday.
In russian, however, I know that Monday is called ponidelnik - the beggining of the week, and it goes on from there.
PaleGrim
05-07-2006, 3:04 PM
I think it has to be monday
Again, look at a calendar and tell me that Sunday is not the start of the week.
I am. It says monday.
ShadeZ
05-07-2006, 10:45 PM
My week starts on sunday. Sunday is the day I get a good rest to prepare. I don't ever have a party or anything to celebrate "the end" on a sunday, I do that on saturdays. (At worst I stay up all night playing cards)
Giantfish
05-07-2006, 11:34 PM
There actually was an "atheist calender." It was made during the French Revolution and had 10 days per week and 12 months with 30 days each. There were 5-6 days at the end of each year for partying and stuff.
Nobody really used it and the calender was abandoned by Napolean Bonaparte.
The week starts whenever you want it to. I think it's Sunday.
Modred
05-08-2006, 12:53 AM
yes historically thats why things are the way they are but its monday -> sunday because thats how things work.
But things only work that way because you have always known of Saturday and Sunday as the week ends. The whole idea of the week is socially constructed and there is no natural order as to what day should be the start. If you truly want to go with a logical, this is the way things should be because they are, we should start a new "week" for each phase of the moon. The day after we see a certain phase is the beginning of the new week, and after a full cycle of the moon we have had a month.
But our calendar isn't structured around the lunar cycles, so that argument is basically pointless. Without the influence of past generations and the way they viewed the calendar, you would not have your "it is because it is" argument. The real issue is: it doesn't matter.
Doombringer64
05-08-2006, 3:55 AM
Week begins on Sunday because I have to go to bed early on Sunday. Well you have to go to bed early I'm getting shitfaced regardless.
PaleGrim
05-08-2006, 12:23 PM
Weeks start on monday, I don't care why, that's how it's in my country so that's how I live.
Leosam096
05-08-2006, 10:48 PM
The last day of the week Before Christ used to be Saturday but changed when Jesus rose from the dead, which was believed on Sunday. so now we call Sunday the Sabbath day or the Last day of the week, then starts the week over with Monday.
Protoss_Honor
05-12-2006, 8:29 PM
Sunday is the start of the week week. Monday is the start of the school or work week. (Unless you happen to have classes or work on Sunday.) Why? Cause I says so.
U-238
05-12-2006, 11:13 PM
I'm with pix. It starts on monday.
The_Maker
05-13-2006, 12:33 AM
Yeah... kinda... sorta... maybe... no :/
I always just go by what the calander says and thats good enough for me <_<
Leosam096
05-13-2006, 12:42 AM
There was the 7th and last day called the Sabbath day. God rested on that day and made it holy because He wanted you to enjoy your life as it is today with Him.
Neu(t)ral Damage
05-14-2006, 3:07 AM
S T O P B R I N G I N G R E L I G I O N I N T O E V E R Y T H I N G
MatGeo
05-14-2006, 4:35 AM
LOL dude what have you got against religion? Oh and weeks start on monday :P
In before GA comments on that ;)
I don't think the 7 day Creation has anything to do with this, honestly. But I think that it starts on "Sunday" just because thats when it... does? Although it favours me to think that it starts on Monday, because thats when the school week starts. In my subconsciousness, Monday is probably the beginning of the week. (Which would be tomorrow, now).
Nickodemus
05-14-2006, 11:31 AM
Uh.. the Christian calendar is the reason why the year is 2006. 2006 years after Christ was born.
To be Quite fair and acurate they, ( christians.) can not with true certainty prove that the man died in that year at all. It was simply set as a date arbitrarily because the pope at the time had nothing better to do. Actually he was suppose to have died some 2 to three years before then. so we would be 2008 or 2009 by that approach. And since we all go by the calendar and last i looked it reads left to right. the first day would be sunday. In reality we do not get a weekend off. We get a day off at the begining of the week, and one at the end. LOL
Now if people want it to start on monday, change the damn calendar.
And lets look at this.
B.C. Befoer Christ
A.D. AFTER DEATH!!!!!!
TinyDancer
05-14-2006, 11:51 AM
B.C. Before Christ
A.D. AFTER DEATH!!!!!!
**A.D.Anno Domini ("In the Year of the Lord")
Monday, Sunday is the WEEKEND.
End of, I'm not even goping to read the other posts here...
I feel kranky now...
**A.D.Anno Domini ("In the Year of the Lord")
I interpreted the AD to mean after Jesus was born, so there is no "middle ground years" while Jesus was alive. But then again, I'm not really sure. And yes, the "2006 years since Jesus was born" is a few years off I know.
B.C.E (Before Current Era)
C.E (Current Era)
I prefer using those >_>;;
Does it really matter what day the week starts on? :/ t.t if it started on monday they would turn saturday into friday, which would suck =P!
-Neo
B.C.E (Before Current Era)
C.E (Current Era)
I prefer using those
-Neo
The political correctness is stupid. I am always going to use BC and AD. ;) Seriously, why don't people call "Christmas" and "Easter" something else because a relation to Christianity offends them.
/rant
TinyDancer
05-15-2006, 9:57 AM
I interpreted the AD to mean after Jesus was born, so there is no "middle ground years" while Jesus was alive. But then again, I'm not really sure. And yes, the "2006 years since Jesus was born" is a few years off I know.
The year Jesus was born, it became AD. Anno Domini. You can google it. ^_^
I prefer BCE and CE though.
Leosam096
05-15-2006, 1:00 PM
The political correctness is stupid. I am always going to use BC and AD. Seriously, why don't people call "Christmas" and "Easter" something else because a relation to Christianity offends them. those days belong to Jesus, I don't know whats so offending about him? You don't accept Him just because you don't want to know Him, huh? :)
The political correctness is stupid. I am always going to use BC and AD. ;) Seriously, why don't people call "Christmas" and "Easter" something else because a relation to Christianity offends them.
/rant
I don't mind christmas or easter (they are christian based after all, that would be like renaming a muslim holiday to memorial day, or something american, doesn't make any sense =P).
The BCE/CE thing, for me at least, is because I enjoy pissing off radical christians. It has nothing to do with PC thanks ;)
-Neo
Honestly I could care less whether the week officially starts on Sunday or Monday. I'm not very religious but this is something that I think is fine the way it is.
Leosam096
05-16-2006, 2:03 AM
The BCE/CE thing, for me at least, is because I enjoy pissing off radical christians. It has nothing to do with PC thanks
PC has done so many for us here in warboards, an example of one who believes. :D
I meant PC as in "Political Correctness" not "ProtossChick" personally I like the Jesus Gal =P
-Neo
Leosam096
05-16-2006, 2:31 AM
there are things mean more than one thing, so i'll keep mind of that
i'll remember that word "political correctness" also :D
The week starts on Monday.
hammocksleeper
05-16-2006, 11:17 AM
Honestly I could care less whether the week officially starts on Sunday or Monday. I'm not very religious but this is something that I think is fine the way it is.
As a matter of fact the only logical reasoning for one day or the other is a religious reason, which is why I think it's funny that certain people who are not particularly religiously inclined are arguing for one particular day in this thread. :)
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