View Full Version : Linux's weak spot
WeekendLazyness
04-19-2004, 10:54 PM
Like all the monsters in MMPR, Linux has a weak spot.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=18901660
That article is hilarious.
hammocksleeper
04-19-2004, 11:02 PM
I don't get it. Why is it hilarious?
It was the most boring, pointless thing I've ever read. All he does is ramble incessantly about stuff I really don't care to read about. "well blah blah blah I tried this sound card so I went to the store and then I did this and my wife made lasagna then I plugged in my computer and rebooted blah blah blah."
I guess the point is that Linux doesn't have very good sound card support (?)
DEATHNIGHT
04-20-2004, 1:32 AM
all i have to say is i totaly agree with hammoksleeper :worship: and i send this to the person who wrote the SUPOSABLY funny article:
:blowup:
:lame:
:samurai:
and also judgeing on how BORING his article was he proably an alcoholic :alcoholic
Dark_Warhawk
04-20-2004, 2:58 AM
It’s funny because most people in the Linux community consider Windows 95 pure garbage but yet it has better dirver support out of the box then the supposed better Linux. thats new Vs a 10 year old OS. i find it funny.
Exedore
04-20-2004, 1:42 PM
His rant is extremely overblown and fails to mention that many hardware manufacturers supply only windows drivers, requiring Linux distributions to make their own. If he went out and bought a $40 sound blaster, I'm sure that it would have worked.
Sure, Linux may have problems with sound card drivers. But at least there aren't gaping holes in the operating system security that allow for remote code execution.
Dark_Warhawk
04-20-2004, 2:34 PM
Oh come on do you really believe if roles were reversed that Linux would not be attacked just as often as Windows, same goes for Mac’s. Go here http://www.cert.org/advisories/ and it seems pretty even and if you Google Linux security vulnerabilities will find plenty. And I know a lot of open source programs tend to hide there security holes, Mozilla to a prime example of that.
Its like saying you have two houses one with high dollar stuff in it and state of the art alarm system and another that is broken down, nothing worth much in there but the high dollar house gets robed all the time but the poor house don't and saying the poor house is more secure. just because its not attacked as often don’t make it more secure once Linux fan boys figure that out the better off we will be.
In the end a system is only as secure as the end user.
Battlecruiser
04-20-2004, 2:44 PM
Hmm the link isn't working for me and I have cable. Oh well I will try again later.
WeekendLazyness
04-20-2004, 4:51 PM
I don't get it. Why is it hilarious?
It was the most boring, pointless thing I've ever read. All he does is ramble incessantly about stuff I really don't care to read about. "well blah blah blah I tried this sound card so I went to the store and then I did this and my wife made lasagna then I plugged in my computer and rebooted blah blah blah."
I guess the point is that Linux doesn't have very good sound card support (?)
If you didn't like it, why did you read it? The article exposes the hypocrisy of the Linux community, which you probably don't have the comprehension skills to pick up on. The point is, don't post if you don't have anything to contribute.
all i have to say is i totaly agree with hammoksleeper :worship: and i send this to the person who wrote the SUPOSABLY funny article:
:blowup:
:lame:
:samurai:
and also judgeing on how BORING his article was he proably an alcoholic :alcoholic
My response above also applies to you. Judging from your poor grammar, bad spelling, and excessive use of emoticons, you are probably some 11-year old who doesn't know a thing about operating systems.
It’s funny because most people in the Linux community consider Windows 95 pure garbage but yet it has better dirver support out of the box then the supposed better Linux. thats new Vs a 10 year old OS. i find it funny.
At least some of us have a sense of irony.
His rant is extremely overblown and fails to mention that many hardware manufacturers supply only windows drivers, requiring Linux distributions to make their own. If he went out and bought a $40 sound blaster, I'm sure that it would have worked.
Sure, Linux may have problems with sound card drivers. But at least there aren't gaping holes in the operating system security that allow for remote code execution.
The thing is, some Linux distros claim they have hardware support for some products when they really don't. As I said above, the article exposes the hypocrisy of the Linux community. If you are going to get in to the security issue, it is as Dark_Warhawk said before: since it isn't as widely used as Windows, security exploits aren't exposed or exploited as Windows.
Someone on the comments section in that Slashdot article said that a distro he used didn't support "the lowest common denominator, SoundBlaster". There is no excuse for not supporting a common driver that is over a decade old. I like Dark_Warhawk's anology, too. The comments also show an interesting attitude in the Linux community. They expect Linux to be the dominant desktop, but refuse to make drivers since, as one user said, he wasn't getting paid for it. Another Linux user said that Linux isn't meant for "mom and pop". A good deal of computer users are "mom and pop" type users who just want to send e-mail, browser the web, etc. Drivers don't just appear so if they're not willing to make them, they shouldn't be touting Linux as the desktop of the future.
hammocksleeper
04-20-2004, 6:46 PM
If you didn't like it, why did you read it? I didn't know I wouldn't like it until I read it. I gave you the benefit of the doubt.
I always hear about security flaws. It seems this is the most widely used argument against Windows. The average Joe shouldn't worry about it because the probability that he is a target is extremely low. I admit I don't really know anything about Linux or Unix or whatever but I know that Windows 95 is pretty cool. And all my shit runs on it.
Although after typing this I am probably a target for some attacks or something. *runs and hides*
DEATHNIGHT
05-03-2004, 11:09 PM
If you didn't like it, why did you read it? The article exposes the hypocrisy of the Linux community, which you probably don't have the comprehension skills to pick up on. The point is, don't post if you don't have anything to contribute.
My response above also applies to you. Judging from your poor grammar, bad spelling, and excessive use of emoticons, you are probably some 11-year old who doesn't know a thing about operating systems.
At least some of us have a sense of irony.
The thing is, some Linux distros claim they have hardware support for some products when they really don't. As I said above, the article exposes the hypocrisy of the Linux community. If you are going to get in to the security issue, it is as Dark_Warhawk said before: since it isn't as widely used as Windows, security exploits aren't exposed or exploited as Windows.
ok dude listen to me ok so i am 13 but i dont really pay much attention to the os of a computer however i do build computers just like i did this one i took a piece of crap with like 2 gigabites and put in a better hardrive more memory a burnable cd drive a new modem etc. did i prove my point ?
DEATHNIGHT
05-03-2004, 11:15 PM
and also judging from you lack of humor i think you need to spend a little more time away from the computer and get out a little more
and if you dont want us to say stuff you dont want to hear about your posts then why do you make them?
Whiteknight
05-03-2004, 11:52 PM
Also judging from this necromancy, I see you don't know to let dead threads lie, especially if you include basically no new content.
There is also little button called the 'edit button'. It's a real useful tool. It prevents you from double posting, which is a good idea not to do.
BTW, HS, the average Joe should worry. Many viruses target them, since they do not have sufficient knowledge to get rid of them. People go for harm, and what's more harmful than sending viruses into millions of 'average Joe's' computers, and having them spend several days to fix it, or pay money to have it fixed.
WeekendLazyness
05-05-2004, 3:31 PM
Regarding DEATHNIGHT's recent posts:
I think any idiot can keep from putting the IDE cable into the DIMM slot, it's not that hard to build a computer.
I have a sense of humor, it's just that you aren't funny.
It's not that I don't want you to say something in my posts, I just want you to say something intelligent and meaningful to the conversation. All your posts in this thread are spam.
Also, let the thread die. I think after fifteen days with no new posts everyone had got it.
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