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Desert_Eagle
04-14-2006, 2:31 PM
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/chi-0604140103apr14,0,4963524.story?coll=ny-leadworldnews-headlines

Well there seems to be no control over the sectarian violence with shi'ite militias battling out with Sunni insurgents. "We are losing each day, as an average, 50 to 60 people throughout the country, if not more," former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi told the British Broadcasting Corp. last month. "If this is not civil war, then God knows what civil war is."

On the ground in Baghdad, U.S. commanders responsible for training and equipping Iraqi security forces acknowledge that the Iraqi police rolls are riddled with members of Shiite militias. These militias are allied with such powerful clerics as Motqada Sadr, who controls the Madhi Army which twice in 2004 fought street battles against U.S. troops in the Shiite holy city of Najaf.

So they really aren't concerned with the fact that their police force is comprised of militias which kill people without trial. Which by the way, there seems to be no viable solution to.

I think it's pretty much impossible at this point to expect any progress in Iraq. The war rages on for nearly the 4th year and still no progress contrary to the administrations bogus claims. But when your policy is that of newspeak, it all makes sense. War is peace. Freedom is civil war and violence. Progress is half of the population without electricity or safe drinking water, not to mention over 55 billions dollars in debt. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/post_saddam_iraq/html/1.stm

B.A.Baracus
04-14-2006, 2:32 PM
Again exuse my spam, but is there not another political topic that intrists you?

Desert_Eagle
04-14-2006, 2:34 PM
You would be surprised how many idiots think Iraq is doing great and how many people still support this war. Less than half the population no doubt, but it's still a significant number.

B.A.Baracus
04-14-2006, 2:42 PM
You would be surprised how many idiots think Iraq is doing great and how many people still support this war. Less than half the population no doubt, but it's still a significant number.

Yes its sad how many people believe that Iraq is a "happy fun camp" for our boys. I think we need to finish up there and then work on fixing our own nation.
However Bush still has 3 years left and a lot more people to fuck with, I can asure you this wont be the last war he starts.

PS The "Iraq cival war" has not even started yet, and thats if it will happen at all.

Desert_Eagle
04-14-2006, 10:01 PM
I think "civil war" is a good description of the situation.

Desert_Eagle
04-16-2006, 4:22 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/12/perry.btsc.baghdad/index.html

Murder, assassination and kidnapping are the words of the day. Blast walls rule all. Security is the growth industry in a city ravaged by bloodshed.

From the rooftop of CNN's bureau, tracer fire rises over Baghdad's Sadr City on a nightly basis. More than 2 million people live in the poor neighborhood, which is run by militia loyal to Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

His followers are well-armed and as loyal as they come. These are the men who control the streets; they decide who comes and who goes through this section of the city. They answer only to the cleric, not the Iraqi security forces or American troops.

"The militias are one of my biggest problems," said a senior U.S. military official with intimate knowledge of security in Baghdad. "The government needs to have a policy on what we are going to do with them."

Of course, the problem is there is still no government.

"We have had engagements with them," the official said. "We don't go looking for an engagement, they just ... happen."

About 30,000 people are fleeing fighting across Iraq, including thousands of families in Baghdad alone. Neighborhoods all across the country, like Sadr City, are shutting down at night. Trees are pulled across roads -- signs that people are taking care of their own security.

"Who do you trust in your neighborhood?" I asked a resident of Baghdad.

"No one," he said.

"Who secures your house, your family?" I asked.

"I do. My brother lives downstairs. We have weapons. We are always in touch on the phone; we have codes," he said.

He then added, "It will get worse -- everyone knows this."

Abdul Aziz Hakim, leader of the prominent Shiite party, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, sits in his compound in Baghdad plotting his next move.

"For three years, we've been bearing the slaughtering, killing, explosions attacking our scholars, our mosques, our facilities, our pilgrims, our barbers, our bakers ... our innocents," he said.

Earlier that week he raised his arms in front of millions. The power he wields is palpable and unmatched. He called out to the masses for cooperation between Sunnis and Shiites. The crowd chanted back, "America out! America out!"

But no, people still claim that Iraqis want us there, and everything is going fine.

Meanwhie, http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/04/16/iraq.main/index.html

16 Iraqis are killed and 4 Marines get to go home in body bags for Easter.