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BlackHawk
04-18-2004, 4:03 PM
BH's Open - Modern Diplo

Participants:


Whiteknight
TheGreatBrain
Orodeth
Matti
Madman5
Tanian Hawkwing
OboeGuru
Fenguin
Subjukator
Cygnus

Participants needed: 0

Nation Assignments:


Ukraine: Orodeth
Turkey: Fenguin
Egypt: Matti
Germany: Cygnus
Italy: Madman5
Poland: TheGreatBrain
Russia: Whiteknight
Britain: Tanian Hawkwing
Spain: Subjukator
France: OboeGuru

Note: There will be some goof ups since this is my first time, so bare with me. I will announce when the orders are due once all the spaces have filled up and I've done the nation assignments (I will not be playing in this, just GMing). Now I'll be off to clean out my inbox so I'm ready to receive the flood of orders come start time...

Map:

http://www.yoxio.com/img/32326.gif

Whiteknight
04-18-2004, 4:04 PM
I'm in! :)

OboeGuru
04-18-2004, 4:08 PM
Sign me up, Scottie!

...Er, BlackHawk! :)

TheGreatBrain
04-18-2004, 4:09 PM
Okay, cool. I'm in.

Whiteknight
04-18-2004, 4:20 PM
Okay, do we get to pick our nations or is it random?

If we pick, then I'd want to be Britain, Egypt, or Turkey.

If not, then I'm fine with that too. :)

BlackHawk
04-18-2004, 4:25 PM
I think I'll go with random assignments, much easier.

Whiteknight
04-18-2004, 4:43 PM
Okay.

Hm, I'll go PM PC because she said she wanted to play before.

BlackHawk
04-18-2004, 6:45 PM
Just 7 more...I think I'm going to PM all those in the original Modern Diplo to see if they're still interested.

OboeGuru
04-18-2004, 6:49 PM
I just issued a notice to all RPers, let's see if some new players want to join, so don't guarantee the old players a spot, ok?

BlackHawk
04-18-2004, 6:51 PM
I just issued a notice to all RPers, let's see if some new players want to join, so don't guarantee the old players a spot, ok?

Sure thing, I haven't PMed yet, so I won't know, and I'll leave it open for a few days to see if we can get some new blood, then I'll go back to the oldies...meh.

Whiteknight
04-18-2004, 6:51 PM
I just issued a notice to all RPers, let's see if some new players want to join, so don't guarantee the old players a spot, ok?

Hm, I don't think you should have closed it. Some new people could ask questions there, etc. Oh well, at least the attention and stickyness will force them to read it, and they will come here :)

BH, how long are you going to wait?

Sperate
04-18-2004, 6:53 PM
Honk. I'm in. Honk.

Mattimeo
04-18-2004, 6:53 PM
I iz in :)

Whiteknight
04-18-2004, 6:54 PM
5 more :)

Hm, I'm going to go PM a few people who havn't played this before, and see if they want to play.

BlackHawk
04-18-2004, 6:58 PM
Yea, I think I'm going to leave it open until tuesday at the latest to give PC and some others a chance to join (Oboe has nicely put a link to this in the sticky so the new players can take a look, this is so that they can have a game with a fresh slate to start in, instead of joining one half way through). After tuesday I will allow the 'older' players to join (Matti being the last 'normal' player to join). Therefore if you're one of the older players, by all means post you will join, but you won't officially be in until tuesday night after the new members have had a chance to join.

Fenguin
04-18-2004, 8:02 PM
I'll sign up! :) So do I go on the list for Tuesday?

BlackHawk
04-18-2004, 8:07 PM
I'll sign up! :) So do I go on the list for Tuesday?

Yep, glad to have you aboard.

madman5
04-18-2004, 8:17 PM
i am in!


Yay my second Diplo game!!!!!

(I perfure Britan, France, or Egypt. Mainly Egypt(great now im not going to get it.....) )

BlackHawk
04-18-2004, 8:53 PM
(I perfure Britan, France, or Egypt. Mainly Egypt(great now im not going to get it.....) )

You will all be randomly assigned a nation, care of a hat and some slips of paper :).

Btw, note to all players: If you join this game, that tells me that you are willing to follow through with this, unless you have a good reason. "I'm too lazy" doesn't cut it. If all you do is order holds everyturn, you'll be replaced. As for orders, I'll allow a one day grace period in which you can send them (unless of course you are away on vacation or something of the sort, then either you can get someone to do your orders for that time, or something else you come up with), after the one day grace period, I'll post the map without your orders. If you're constantly sending orders in late (let's say 5 times, I think we can all agree on that), then you will be replaced.

madman5
04-18-2004, 9:11 PM
Belive me it happends. I kno this from personal experiance :)

Subjukator
04-19-2004, 7:44 AM
I'd love to.

Cygnus
04-19-2004, 9:28 AM
If there's space... I'm in.

BlackHawk
04-19-2004, 2:38 PM
Both added to the "Tuesday List".

Modred
04-19-2004, 9:20 PM
Add me to Tuesday's list. :p

Since its only tomorrow...I won't have long to wait.

Whiteknight
04-20-2004, 12:20 AM
Yes! Tomorrow we start!

BTW, I tried to get some other people to join... unsucessful :(

tanain_hawkwing
04-20-2004, 7:52 AM
ill join if you will let in newbies

TheGreatBrain
04-20-2004, 10:45 AM
Always! :)

ForeignKid
04-20-2004, 11:54 AM
can i join

ForeignKid
04-20-2004, 11:55 AM
Nerds Nerds

ForeignKid
04-20-2004, 11:56 AM
Jus Kidding Homies
My Bad
Props

ForeignKid
04-20-2004, 12:02 PM
Sorry!!!!!!!!

Mattimeo
04-20-2004, 1:18 PM
Uh, one post at a time dude, I'm sure you'll get in.

~Don't Panic

Subjukator
04-20-2004, 1:38 PM
Do you really think foreign kid is going to actually participate? He'll probably end up like another Shadowcrusader in Fenguin Open.

BlackHawk
04-20-2004, 4:03 PM
Nope, I think he wanted to at school today, but if he can't even figure out how to edit...

First post edited, nation assignments done. Commence negotiations.

Orders Due: Thursday April 22 at 9:00 P.M. EST

NOTE: Map may not get done until Friday night because I have two tests on friday, and an assignment due...

Whiteknight
04-20-2004, 5:42 PM
Damn... Russia... I don't like Russia, too many fronts.

Mother Russia is convinced that alliances with Turkey, Poland, Germany, and Italy would be beneficial to both countries.

TheGreatBrain
04-20-2004, 5:55 PM
Poland accepts Russian alliance.

Poland offers alliances to Germany, Britain, and Egypt.

Mattimeo
04-20-2004, 6:05 PM
lmao, Egypt again? here we go. Alliance with Poland accepted, alliances offered to Turkey, Italy, and Great Britain.

~Don't Panic

Whiteknight
04-20-2004, 6:06 PM
Mattimeo, I'll trade ya ;)

Subjukator
04-20-2004, 6:20 PM
Spain offers alliances to France and Eygpt with a NAP to Italy.

Mattimeo
04-20-2004, 6:28 PM
Lol, i'm keepin' Egypt. At least i know what i'm doing ;)

~Don't Panic

Subjukator
04-20-2004, 6:48 PM
What? I'm not important enough?

Sperate
04-21-2004, 5:35 AM
What phase/year does this variant start in? S1997M, right?

Can a fleet move from WBS to AEG in one move or no? (Some have Istanbul as a canal, some don't)

Whiteknight
04-21-2004, 9:22 AM
I'm still waiting on a reply to an alliance with Turkey, Germany, and Italy...

tanain_hawkwing
04-21-2004, 11:13 AM
Im a newbie so dont get mad! My army is in Liverpool right? If it is does that mean that I can only go to somewhere in the uk directly next to it or can I go to another country?

Cygnus
04-21-2004, 11:24 AM
Germany wishes to create alliances with Russia, Poland, France, and Egypt. NAPs are extended to Italy and Britain. Orders PMed as of now.

EDIT: And to answer your question... no, you must got through Ist.

tanain_hawkwing
04-21-2004, 11:45 AM
Ist??

Cygnus
04-21-2004, 12:02 PM
Ist = Istanbul...

tanain_hawkwing
04-21-2004, 12:41 PM
Why MUST I go through Istanbul? but anyway this seems too complicated for m,e so i might drop out. Are the orders we are posting to BH the ones telling him if there is a fleet or army and where its in?

BlackHawk
04-21-2004, 3:12 PM
Cygnus got your Orders. Uhh, the year...1997 sounds fine, that's what Cyggie used.

Tanain, the orders you send me are basically your commands of your army, it tells me where you're moving your men around the board. It's like I'm the man in charge of detailing to your army where the commander (you) wishes them to go, and you're orders are the instructions for your soldiers / army.

Sperate
04-21-2004, 3:34 PM
'97, eh? Ok. Orders should be PMed once CERTIAN COUNTRIES check their PMs.

madman5
04-21-2004, 7:02 PM
I am Italy....All NAP's and alliances accepted

Mattimeo
04-21-2004, 7:09 PM
Egypt accepts the German alliance.

w00t

~Don't Panic

Subjukator
04-21-2004, 8:57 PM
Spain offers alliances to France and Eygpt with a NAP to Italy and would really like a reply!

Whiteknight
04-21-2004, 9:59 PM
Cygnus, I already asked you for an alliance. Oh well, Russia accepts.

Russia is glad to have Italy's support.

Still waiting for Turkey's reply...

Cygnus
04-21-2004, 10:35 PM
Just to double check... when are orders due by?

Sperate
04-21-2004, 10:54 PM
PMs, folks. I know I sent them..

OboeGuru
04-22-2004, 12:51 AM
France accepts alliances with Germany and Spain.

Subjukator
04-22-2004, 10:40 AM
Spain

A Svl S F Bar-And
A Madrid-Por
F Bar-And

tanain_hawkwing
04-22-2004, 12:19 PM
do I Tell You Where My Armies And Fleets Are Or Do You Tell Me????

Cygnus
04-22-2004, 4:26 PM
Look for the circles (armies) or boxes (fleets) in your land.

Whiteknight
04-22-2004, 5:06 PM
Orders being PMed now.

madman5
04-22-2004, 5:37 PM
Italy


F Nap - Tyr Sea
F Ven - Cro
A Rom H
A Mil - Aus

Sperate
04-22-2004, 5:44 PM
do I Tell You Where My Armies And Fleets Are Or Do You Tell Me????
you're told on the map. but you tell where the go. PM your orders to Backhawk. I think it was discussed earlier how to write them...

Gah. I hate you all.

Whiteknight
04-22-2004, 5:49 PM
Even me? :cry:

BlackHawk
04-22-2004, 6:22 PM
It's 7 right now, and I have Cygnus, Mattimeo, Sub, Madman, and WK's orders, I need: TGB, Orodeth, Oboe, Tanian, and Fengys (sorry if you already posted them and I haven't found them).

Note the map will probably be done tommorow afternoon.

TheGreatBrain
04-22-2004, 7:07 PM
Polish Orders:

F Gda-Lit
A War-Bie
A Kra Support A War-Bie

Sperate
04-22-2004, 7:16 PM
Most definitay you, Mr. I'll-ignore-Orodreth-and-kick-his-ass.

Sperate
04-22-2004, 8:42 PM
PMed.

BlackHawk
04-22-2004, 8:43 PM
Now waiting on Oboe, Fengy, and Tanian's orders.

OboeGuru
04-23-2004, 2:11 AM
Les Ordres Français (Pardonez-moi pour être en retard)

F Bor -> Bri
A Par -> Als
A Mar -> Pie
A Lyo -> Mar

Subjukator
04-23-2004, 6:42 AM
And after all that time I spent planning in the original Modern Diplo game with Shingami....

BlackHawk
04-23-2004, 3:27 PM
M'kay, Fenguin and Tanian you have until 9 tonight. Btw, Tanian if you need help with your orders I'd advise PMing Modred or me for help (I don't know if Modred is around I think he said he's gone for a while in another thread?).

OboeGuru
04-23-2004, 6:55 PM
Yeah, he's out for the weekend. Tanain could always talk to me too. :) Or pretty much anyone else he trusts.

Whiteknight
04-23-2004, 8:31 PM
Why were you posting in french before? French class?

And, yeah, did that mean:

Orders in French: I'm such a retard?

OboeGuru
04-23-2004, 10:00 PM
It means: "French Orders (Pardon me for being late)"

Art thou mappaging, Sir Hawk of Black?

BlackHawk
04-23-2004, 10:17 PM
He posted in French to see if all Canadians can speak french, ;). And I don't think the Americans have French class, more Spanish, cause they don't have as many Frenchies as we do.

Bah, way to late had my cousins over it's 11:14. Don't worry though, I want to give Fengy and Tanian a chance, tommorow morning I'll start right away, if they don't send their orders in...I guess I'll have to order all the units to holder1z3 :(.

Whiteknight
04-23-2004, 10:25 PM
Oops, sorry Oboe. I havn't been in a French class since grade 4, and that was my second year (it was forced upon us). I didn't take it afterwards because... well... I hate speaking french, it's such a backwards language to me (instead of 'I go to the mall', its 'Mall, I go to' in french or something like that. And everything is masculin or feminine. Like words are a guy or a girl.... and you have to know which they are so that you know whether you use le or la or w/e.... grr.... Good thing I didn't have to take it again, otherwise I would have gone insane.)

Oh well, tomorrow is map then. Where is Fenguin, anyways?

BlackHawk
04-23-2004, 10:29 PM
Oh well, tomorrow is map then. Where is Fenguin, anyways?

Yep, map tommorow morning around 9 - 10 a.m. EST time, I'll be a hard working slave...err GM :). And that's what I've been wondering...

OboeGuru
04-23-2004, 11:33 PM
Heh, I'd be surprised if Fenguin's awake by then.

There's a bit of sleep loss going on in our HS over AP Physics review...

BlackHawk
04-24-2004, 9:31 AM
BH’s Open – Modern Diplo
Spring 1907

Summary

All the powers make moves to ensure some builds in the Fall to fuel their war machines. Spain makes some aggressive moves towards Britian. Italy stretches out to secure two SC’s for the fall, but he leaves his backdoor open which France takes advantage of. Germany expands his influence unnoticed, and a front develops between Germany and France on the Western side, a possible standoff in the Fall for SC’s? Poland wins a standoff against Ukraine over Bie due to a smart support from Kra. Ukraine also has a standoff in CRP with Russia who believes it should be his, it is his country afterall. Russia and Ukraine both venture south towards Turkey who stands still. Maybe a defensive move on Turkeys part? Egypt moves into the surrounding land, taking advantage of Turkey’s isolation and moving into EMe unchallenged.

Germany (Cygnus):

F Ber-Bhm
F Ham-Den
A Fra-Ruh
A Mun-Sax

Egypt (Mattimeo):

A Aswan-Eastern Sahara
F Alexandria-Eastern Mediterranean
F Cairo-Red Sea

Spain (Subjukator):

A Svl S F Bar-And
A Madrid-Por
F Bar-And

Italy (Madman5):

F Nap - Tyr Sea
F Ven - Cro
A Rom H
A Mil - Aus

Russia (WhiteKnight):

A Murmansk - Finland
F St. Petersburg - Gulf of Bothnia
A Moscow - Central Russian Plateu (Bounce)
A Garky - Volga
F Rostov holds

Poland (TGB):

F Gda-Lit
A War-Bie
A Kra Support A War-Bie

Ukraine (Orodeth):

A Kie – Bie (Bounce)
A Kha – CRP (Bounce)
A Ode - Rum
F Sev – EBS

France (OboeGuru):

F Bor -> Bri
A Par -> Als
A Mar -> Pie
A Lyo -> Mar

Turkey (Fenguin):

No Orders.

(All units hold).

Britian(Tanian Hawkwing):

No Orders.

(All units hold).

Builds / Retreats / Disbands / SC Count

Germany: 0/-/0/4
Egypt: 0/-/0/3
Spain: 0/-/0/3
Italy: 0/-/0/4
Russia: 0/-/0/5
Poland: 0/-/0/3
Ukraine: 0/-/0/4
France: 0/-/0/4
Turkey: 0/-/0/4
Britian: 0/-/0/3

http://www.yoxio.com/img/33742.jpg

Orders due: Monday April 26 at 9 P.M. EST. If someone can't make it PM me and I can give you an extension.

Subjukator
04-24-2004, 4:09 PM
Orders PMed

BlackHawk
04-24-2004, 4:21 PM
Got 'em.

Whiteknight
04-24-2004, 8:01 PM
Hm, I don't like this at all...

Notice to Poland: A move Eastward or into Lat will be considered an act of agression, and our alliance will cease. If you wish, we may talk in private about moves.

Sperate
04-24-2004, 8:07 PM
Playing both sides of the rope, are we, TGB? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Cygnus
04-24-2004, 10:29 PM
Germany wishes send a notice to Russia: Any act of war on Poland will be considered an act of war on Germany. You have been warned.

EDIT: Poland and Italy, read your PMs.

Whiteknight
04-24-2004, 11:57 PM
Russia wishes to send a notice to Germany (and Poland): If our ally, Poland, wishes to make an act of aggression towards Russia (eastwards), then Russia will take appropriate action. If that would mean breaking the Russian and Germany alliance, so be it. The Poles will decide the fate of the alliances. Russia wishes not to invade Poland, but will defend itself.

BlackHawk
04-26-2004, 2:30 PM
Update:

Okay, so far I am missing orders from:
· Mattimeo
· Madman5
· WhiteKnight (*)
· TGB
· Orodeth
· Fenguin (**)
· Tanian (**)

* Will be in by tonight at 9 P.M. EST (GMT -5).
** Are being PM'ed to see if they will hand their orders in and if they are still playing, if one of them cannot they will be replaced by a RL friend of mine who has an interest in playing Diplo.

If peoples orders are not all in tonight, their will be a grace period and the orders will be due tommorow (April 27th 9 P.M. EST), and the map will be done by Wed.

Whiteknight
04-26-2004, 6:15 PM
PMing orders now, thanks for waiting.

EDIT: Orders PMed (a while ago)

HackingVictim
04-26-2004, 6:58 PM
Fengy should be pming his orders by now. he was in this tread 3 times yesterday. BTW I'm just here to watch.

madman5
04-26-2004, 7:01 PM
Gotta do something for school so I might not be able to get orders in. I'll PM you if i can.

BlackHawk
04-26-2004, 7:04 PM
Gotta do something for school so I might not be able to get orders in. I'll PM you if i can.

Don't worry, due to the lack of orders the order due date has been moved to: Tues April 27th at 9 P.M. EST (GMT - 5).

Subjukator
04-27-2004, 8:29 AM
These early delays are killing me!

BlackHawk
04-27-2004, 2:56 PM
Update:

The orders are due tonight at 9, no later, as stated previously. If your orders are not in by tonight, map is done without them. Those who I do not have orders from are:

· Mattimeo
· Madman5
· TGB
· Orodeth
· Tanian

A note to all players: Fenguin (Turkey) has been replaced by a real-life friend of mine who is interested in playing (Foreign Kid), so any alliances with Turkey will have to be re-instated as he doesn't know of any plans made with the old Turkey.

madman5
04-27-2004, 5:22 PM
Orders being PMed

TheGreatBrain
04-27-2004, 5:27 PM
Polish Orders:

F Lit Hold
A Bie Hold
A Kra Support A Bie Hold

BlackHawk
04-27-2004, 6:00 PM
TGB...uhh it's Fall '07 not Spring '08 :D.

Btw, got your Madman.

TheGreatBrain
04-27-2004, 6:25 PM
Uh... wow, what an awful mistake. Orders edited.

BlackHawk
04-27-2004, 8:15 PM
BH’s Open – Modern Diplo
Fall 1907

Summary

Most of the powers expand to gain some builds in the Spring. Russia gets denied any builds in the Spring by Turkey and Germany. Things begin to heat up as France tries to steal one of Italy’s home SC’s, but fails due to a smart move on Italy’s part. France also makes an aggressive move towards England by entering the English Channel. England however doesn’t seem to mind as they have decided their tea time shouldn’t be interrupted with such trivial activities as ruling Europe. Turkey gets back on track as its President is overthrown and replaced by a more active one. Poland stretches its territory to the Russian border, maybe signs of hostility? Spain annexes Gib, shrinking Great Britians Empire to 3 SC’s. Ukraine and Egypt, although set up to feed their hungry warmachine, sit motionless.

Germany (Cygnus):

F Bhm-Swe (Bounce)
F Den S F Bhm-Swe
A Ruh-Bel
A Sax-Cze

Egypt (Mattimeo):

NMR

(All units hold)

Spain (Subjukator):

A Por HOLD
A Svl-Gib
F And S A Svl-Gib

Italy (Madman5):

A Aus-Mil (Bounce)
F Cro Hold
A Rom-Tus
F Tyr-Tun

Russia (WhiteKnight):

A Fin – Swe (Bounce)
F Gob Support A Fin - Swe
F Ros - Geo (Bounce)
A Vol – Ros (Bounce)
A Mos HOLD

Poland (TGB):

F Lit Hold
A Bie Hold
A Kra Support A Bie Hold

Ukraine (Orodeth):

NMR

(All units hold)

France (OboeGuru):

F Bri -> Eng
A Als -> Swi
A Pie -> Mil (Bounce)
A Mar -> Mon

Turkey (ForeignKid):

A Ada – Irn(nc)
F Ank – Geo (Bounce)
A Ist - Bul
F Izm – Aeg

Britian(Tanian Hawkwing):

NMR

(All units hold, F Gib H Dislodged)

Builds / Retreats / Disbands / SC Count

Germany: 3/-/0/7
Egypt: 0/-/0/3
Spain: 2/-/0/5
Italy: 3/- /0/7
Russia: 0/-/0/5
Poland: 2/-/0/5
Ukraine: 1/-/0/5
France: 2/-/0/6
Turkey: 2/-/0/6
Britian: 0/F Gib – (SoG, SAO, Disband)/1/3

Map

http://www.yoxio.com/img/35041.jpg

Orders Due: Friday April 30 at 9:00 P.M. (GMT -5), however map will not be made until Sat morning.

Subjukator
04-28-2004, 10:32 AM
Question: Answered, thx!

Notice to France: I'll be moving a fleet into the Gulf of Lyon but I have no hostile intentions since we're allies :)

Orders PMed

BlackHawk
04-28-2004, 2:37 PM
Question: Can I make a fleet at any coastal supply center or does it matter somehow? If it does, I'll have to alter my orders so don't set mine in stone yet BH!

You can make a fleet in any home supply centre. And I checked your orders, you're fine.

Orders PMed

Got 'em. You and Cygnus are always the first :tup:.

Whiteknight
04-28-2004, 7:07 PM
Things arn't looking too good for me... no builds...

Notice to Poland: A move eastward into CRP, Moscow, or STP will be considered an act of war and our alliance will cease, and appropriate actions will be taken.

Subjukator
04-29-2004, 6:25 AM
Notice to Russia: If you don't post at blizz forums diplo game, I am going to rip out your testicles and make hush puppies out of them. :)

Whiteknight
04-29-2004, 9:20 AM
Notice to Spain:

....

eep! :eek:

I'll post when I get back then. No worries, I've been thinking about it and I'm pretty sure I will, although I'll PM you just to make it final and for sure.

Cygnus
04-29-2004, 11:48 AM
That's a good way, or should I say reason, for people to get their orders in.

BlackHawk
04-30-2004, 2:32 PM
Just a friendly reminder that orders are due tonight at 9 P.M. EST (GMT - 5), and that I still need orders from the following:

· Egypt
· Italy
· Russia
· Ukraine (Looking for replacement)
· France
· Turkey
· Britian

I will be contacting some Diplo players that are not in this game to see if they would like to write orders for anyone that doesn't have them in tonight by 8:00 (EST).

OboeGuru
04-30-2004, 3:25 PM
La France
F Mar
A Lyo

F Mar -> Lig
A Lyo HOLD
A Pie -> Mil
A Swi S A Pie -> Mil
A Mon -> Pie
F Eng -> Iri

Cygnus
04-30-2004, 3:46 PM
BlackHawk read your pms.

EDIT: madman5, read yours as well.

BlackHawk
04-30-2004, 3:55 PM
BlackHawk read your pms.

Got it, thanks.

Btw, I've asked if Geno would like to write Orodeth's orders for this turn, if he accepts but can't get them in by tonights deadline then their will be an extension 'til tommorow at 9 EST (GMT - 5). If he accepts either I or he will tell you guys and you guys give him any information about alliances and whatnot that is necessary.

BlackHawk
04-30-2004, 4:12 PM
Update

Orders needed from:

· Egypt
· Russia
· Ukraine (Looking for replacement)
· Britian (Replacement?)

Anyone know of anyothers that might be able to take over for someone?

Geno
04-30-2004, 4:47 PM
Sorry, but I can't pick up in the MIDDLE of a game... I need to learn first, and this isn't the way for me... Starting fresh is more my style. Sorry to disappoint. Besides, 1 game is enough for me right now x.x

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

BlackHawk
04-30-2004, 4:55 PM
Sorry, but I can't pick up in the MIDDLE of a game... I need to learn first, and this isn't the way for me... Starting fresh is more my style. Sorry to disappoint. Besides, 1 game is enough for me right now x.x

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

No problem Geno. Well 2 openings right now, unless Tanian get's his in, then there's only one. Anyone know what happened to Tanian? And anyone know of someone to use as Ukraine? And...do you guys think I should post this map (after tonights deadline), pretty much damaging those countries that have had little movement, without their orders, or wait 'til tommorow night?

ForeignKid
04-30-2004, 5:00 PM
Lets wait

Whiteknight
04-30-2004, 5:12 PM
PMing orders now. Sorry for taking so long.

Subjukator
04-30-2004, 6:01 PM
Well... 7 out of 10 isn't TOO bad...

BlackHawk
04-30-2004, 6:22 PM
Well... 7 out of 10 isn't TOO bad...

True. Fine. Final deadline: Tonight, 9 P.M. EST (GMT -5).

Btw, anyone know who I can use as replacements? And where is Tanian? Gah.

BlackHawk
04-30-2004, 9:16 PM
BH’s Open – Modern Diplo
“Deadly” Spring 1908

Summary

After days of planning an apparent Italian-German alliance bears it’s ugly head, which is more then France wants to see as they pull a surprise attack, entering France territory and threatening 3 French SC’s and capturing one. All of the French moves are bounced but one lonely fleet coming closer and closer to Britain. Italy’s whole flank moves West except for one fleet going east to gain land. Russia decides it’s time to make use of Ukraine’s absence and launches a mildly successful assault on the sleeping country. Once again Russia and Germany fight over Sweden while a Polish fleet enters Bal, will this single fleet be the decision of which country takes Sweden? Poland better be ready to receive a flurry of letters! Poland also does some odd reshuffling of his forces, while to the south Turkey becomes highly active, launching it’s own assault against Egypt, taking EMe and stretching it’s influence to include Gre and Arm. War already and only in the second year, what will the Fall have to offer, more war? Maybe some betrayal, and a spoonful of SC collection?

Germany (Cygnus):

F Ham
A Mun
A Fra
-----
A Bel-Pic
F Ham-Hol
F Den-Swe (Bounce)
F Bhm S F Den-Swe
A Mun-Als
A Fra-Mun
A Cze Hold

Egypt (Mattimeo):

NMR

(All units hold, F EMe Dislodged)

Spain (Subjukator):

F Bar
F Svl
-----
F Bar-Gulf of Lyon
F And-SoG
F Svl-South Atlantic Ocean
A Por-Navarra
A Gib HOLD

Italy (Madman5):

A Mil
A Ven
F Rom
-----
A Mil-Swi
A Aus S A Mil-Swi
A Ven-Mil (Bounce)
A Tus-Pie (Bounce)
F Cro-Ser
F Rom-Lig (Bounce)
F Tun-Wme

Russia (WhiteKnight):

F GoB - Swe (Bounce)
A Fin S F Gob - Swe
A Vol - Kha (Bounce)
F Ros - Don
A Mos - CRP

Poland (TGB):

F Gda
A War
-----
A Bie-Lat
F Lit-Bal
F Gda-Lit
A War-Bie
A Kra S A War-Bie

Ukraine (Orodreth):

NMR

(All units hold)

France (OboeGuru):

F Mar
A Lyo
-----
F Mar -> Lig (Bounce)
A Lyo HOLD
A Pie -> Mil (Bounce)
A Swi S A Pie -> Mil (Cut)
A Mon -> Pie (Bounce)
F Eng -> Iri

Turkey (ForeignKid):

F Ada
A Ist
-----
A Ist - Gre
F Ada - EMe
F Aeg support F Ada - EMe
A Irn(nc) - Arm
A Bul Hold
F Ank Hold

Britain(Tanian Hawkwing):

NMR

(All units hold, F Gib Disbanded)

Builds / Retreats / Disbands / SC Count

Germany: 0/-/0/7
Egypt: 0/F EMe - (Isr, Cai, Ale, Ionian Sea, Syr, Lbn, Izm)/0/3
Spain: 0/-/0/5
Italy: 0/- /0/7
Russia: 0/-/0/5
Poland: 0/-/0/5
Ukraine: 0/-/0/5
France: 0/A Swi has no eligible retreats and is disbanded/0/6
Turkey: 0/-/0/6
Britain: 0/-/0/3

Map

http://www.yoxio.com/img/35788.jpg

Orders due: Tuesday, May 4th at 9 P.M. EST (GMT -5). Extensions can be given, and if anyone would like to / knows someone that would like to replace either Ukraine (Orodreth) or Britain (Tanian) then just PM me / post here.

Maegtelluma
04-30-2004, 9:21 PM
I'll be a replacement, if you still need one.

BlackHawk
04-30-2004, 9:38 PM
I'll be a replacement, if you still need one.

Thank'yee, since you're the first replacement, you can choose who to be, Ukraine or Britain, your choice.

OboeGuru
05-01-2004, 12:43 AM
Phuck, this is two bad starts in a row.
Who's up for the next installation of "France gets raped up the ass"?

If I get eliminated soon, and there's still an opening, dibs on taking it.

Whiteknight
05-01-2004, 12:57 AM
Someone replace TheGreatBrain, as I'm sure he's about to stab me in the back right away *shakes fist*.

Notice to Poland: A move eastward shall constitue an infringment in our alliance. Germany, Italy, do I have the backs of my other allies, shall this trucebreaker attack Russia? If Poland would not hesitate to break an alliance with Russia, then he will in turn stab you in the back. Remind him that if he attacks me, there shall be dire consequences.

tanain_hawkwing
05-01-2004, 6:58 AM
Sorry i havnt been on for a while because I have had alot to do! I am crap at diplo and dont know the rules or how to play so replae me.

Maegtelluma
05-01-2004, 11:16 AM
I'll take Urkaine. England never seems to work for me lol.

EDIT: Any agreements made with the former Ukraine should be restated. Thanks

Subjukator
05-01-2004, 12:45 PM
Since Eygpt's leader seems to have gone on vacation, Spain would like to instead offer an alliance to Turkey and one to Germany as well.

tanain_hawkwing
05-01-2004, 12:51 PM
Wait a sec I have read the tutorial over and over so if someone just tells me If I actually have any armies I can play!

BlackHawk
05-01-2004, 12:57 PM
Wait a sec I have read the tutorial over and over so if someone just tells me If I actually have any armies I can play!

Well I've PMed Modred about your position, but if you still want to play I guess if he wished he could be like your mentor guy...if he accepts that is. Anyway, you do still have armies (well Fleets actually), see the last page for the map.

Subjukator
05-01-2004, 1:20 PM
Oh, and Poland, would you like to ally Spain?

TheGreatBrain
05-01-2004, 1:21 PM
Yes, I will ally with Spain.

Subjukator
05-01-2004, 1:22 PM
*Orders PMed

Cygnus
05-02-2004, 7:37 AM
Germany accepts the Spanish alliance.

Subjukator
05-02-2004, 9:23 AM
Spain thanks Poland and Germany :D

tanain_hawkwing
05-02-2004, 12:01 PM
Dispatchs ally request to France.

Cygnus
05-02-2004, 2:36 PM
Germany wishes to create an alliance with Britain.

Modred
05-02-2004, 2:48 PM
Yo, Tanian, I will provide you with some mentoring help if you need it. However, I do not wish to take over your spot in the game. :D

PM me if you need some help or have a question.

Cygnus
05-02-2004, 3:40 PM
Brain read your PMs.

tanain_hawkwing
05-03-2004, 6:34 AM
Accepts Germanies alliance offer.

madman5
05-03-2004, 3:13 PM
Orders being pmed

Whiteknight
05-03-2004, 6:58 PM
Did anyone ever read my notice, especially my allies?

Notice to ally Poland: What are your intentions in moving eastward?

Cygnus
05-03-2004, 7:59 PM
Germany wishes to create an alliance with Turkey.

tanain_hawkwing
05-04-2004, 10:24 AM
Britain dispatches alliance request to Turkey.

BlackHawk
05-04-2004, 3:54 PM
Just a friendly reminder that orders are due tonight at 9 P.M. EST (GMT - 5). Though the map will not be done until tommorow. I will be PM'ing those I still need orders from.

Whiteknight
05-04-2004, 6:21 PM
Thank you, BH, I'm sending them now. I would have done it earlier, but ...well, a thread will be up explaining it in the General Forums soon.

PMing orders now.

ForeignKid
05-04-2004, 10:20 PM
Turkey accepts German's alliance

ForeignKid
05-04-2004, 10:21 PM
Turkey also accepts Britain's alliance

OboeGuru
05-04-2004, 10:21 PM
The French

A Pie -> Mil
A Mon -> Pie
F Mar -> GoL
A Lyo HOLD

I think the Dies Irae is my personal theme around here...

BlackHawk
05-05-2004, 5:41 PM
BH’s Open – Modern Diplo
"Time is ticking" Fall 1908

Summary

Both sides of Europe erupt into war! It seems France’s time is ticking away as two of it’s SC’s are taken, one of which is his capital of Paris. France’s fleet in the Irish sea remains stationary when it could have contributed to the war effort. Spain’s poor calculations result in Italy moving past his lines capturing one of the Spanish SC’s. Italy also brings more men to the western flank, it seems the German-Italian war machine is unstopable. In the north Germany captures Sweden with Polish help, and Russia makes a move into Lap, maybe strategic? However, Russia’s units are too spread out and he is ripped apart from the inside as Poland and Ukraine capture two of his SC’s, in retailiation Russia captures one of Ukraines. Turkey moves into Egyptian soil, as well as expanding out to the borders of Russia. Ukraine decides to take a pot shot on Italy and with the help of Turkey dislodges a stray Italian fleet, capturing another SC. One of Turkeys fleets also move into a position to threaten Italy’s unprotected Eastern front.

Germany (Cygnus):

A Pic-Par
A Als S A Pic-Par
A Mun S ITALIAN A Swi
A Cze hold
F Hol Hold
F Bhm-Swe
F Den S F Bhm-Swe

Egypt (Mattimeo):

(NMR)

All units hold, F EMe retreats to Ale.

Spain (Subjukator):

A Gib-Morocco
F South Atlantic Ocean C A Gib-Morocco
A Navarra - Bor
F Sog-Western Mediterranean
F Gulf of Lyon S F Sog-Western Mediterranean (Cut)

Italy (Madman5):

F Ser Hold (Dislodged)
A Aus-Hun
A Swi Hold
A Ven-Mil
A Tus S A Ven-Mil
F Rom-Lig
F Wme-Bar

Russia (WhiteKnight):

A CRP - Kha (Bounce)
A Vol Support A CRP - Kha (Cut)
F Don - Sev
A Fin - Lap
F GOB – Swe (Bounce)

Poland (TGB):

F Bal Support German F Bhm-Swe
A Lat-Mos
A Bie Support A Lat-Mos
F Lit-Lat
A Kra Support A Bie

Ukraine (Maegtelluma):

A Rum. to Ser
F East BS to Rostov
A Kiev to Don
A Kha to Volga (Bounce)

France (OboeGuru):

A Pie -> Mil (Bounce)
A Mon -> Pie (Bounce)
F Mar -> GoL (Bounce)
A Lyo HOLD
F Iri H

Turkey (ForeignKid):

F Aeg - Ion
F Eme - cai
A Bul support Ukraine A Rum - Ser
A Arm - Geo
A Ank S Geo (Can’t support a unit that is moving there)
A Gre S Bul (Can’t support a unit that is moving there)

Britain(Tanian Hawkwing):

F Liv - Iri (Bounce)
F Lon - Nth
F Edi H

Builds / Retreats / Disbands / SC Count

Germany: 3/-/0/10
Egypt: 0/-/1/2
Spain: 1/-/0/6
Italy: 3/F Ser - (Alb, Cro, Adr)/0/10
Russia: 0/-/1/4
Poland: 1/-/0/6
Ukraine: 1/-/0/6
France: 0/- /2/3
Turkey: 3/-/0/9
Britain: 0/-/0/3

Map:

http://www.yoxio.com/img/37300.jpg

Cygnus
05-05-2004, 7:26 PM
Jesus... this just got a lot more interesting. :)

EDIT: I think Als should have a nice German grey. ^^

Subjukator
05-05-2004, 7:50 PM
Ummm, BlackHawk. You have made a fatal error. How did the Italian fleet jump from

F Wme-Bar when my fleet was is in the Western Mediterranean Sea in the first place?!?!?

BlackHawk
05-05-2004, 8:08 PM
Ummm, BlackHawk. You have made a fatal error. How did the Italian fleet jump from

F Wme-Bar when my fleet was is in the Western Mediterranean Sea in the first place?!?!?

No, yours was in SoG, you even ordered F SoG - WMe. And Cygnus, I'll fix that later, sorry 'bout that. At the last minute I realized I hadn't coloured Hol in :D.

Cygnus
05-05-2004, 8:29 PM
Heh, no rush.

OboeGuru
05-05-2004, 9:05 PM
Goddammit! I forgot to order that one fleet!

France disbands F Irish Sea, A Pie and surrenders.

Whiteknight
05-05-2004, 9:24 PM
Well, things don't look to good for Russia. Too bad my ALLIES didn't back up my requests for help. Even if one would go against me... sigh, oh well. Orders will be in tomorrow, probably.

TheGreatBrain
05-05-2004, 9:27 PM
Jesus... this just got a lot more interesting. :)
Interesting indeed. :)

Subjukator
05-06-2004, 6:27 AM
No, yours was in SoG, you even ordered F SoG - WMe. And Cygnus, I'll fix that later, sorry 'bout that. At the last minute I realized I hadn't coloured Hol in :D.

EDIT: I hate making ignorant errors....

Cygnus
05-06-2004, 9:32 AM
Then it would have bounced DUH!!!!
Incorrect sir. You see Italy was already in the Wme, he then proceeded to move into Bar. You moved F Sog to Wme. There was no bounce.

To recap:

Italy's move - F Wme-Bar

Spain's (your) move - F Sog-Western Mediterranean

No unit moved to block his move into Bar. End of story.

Subjukator
05-06-2004, 10:03 AM
No. My move into Wme would have canceled Italy's move by its fleet into Bar because the Italian fleet in Wme would have had to defend itself against the move by my fleet in SoG.

Cygnus
05-06-2004, 10:20 AM
No. My move into Wme would have canceled Italy's move by its fleet into Bar because the Italian fleet in Wme would have had to defend itself against the move by my fleet in SoG.
Again, incorrect. The fleet is moving out of Wme, while your unit is moving in. Since all moves are simultaneous his unit does not have to defend against your move. The only way this his move could have been prevented was if you moved a unit into Bar, which you did not. Therefore his attack works as does yours.

Subjukator
05-06-2004, 10:25 AM
Yea I just figured that out a few minutes after I posted.

Cygnus
05-06-2004, 10:34 AM
Orders will be in tonight or tomarrow.

Subjukator
05-06-2004, 10:37 AM
Spain’s poor calculations...

And my previous orders were based on a flawed assumption making your statement not entirely correct. But whatever.

EDIT: You know, just forget what I said. I'm just a little irritated as I had thought I had this game (diplomacy in general) down, but I guess I didn't.

Whiteknight
05-06-2004, 6:42 PM
When are orders due again?

Notice to Poland: You shall not get away with this betrayal. Russia officially declares war on Poland.

BlackHawk
05-06-2004, 8:54 PM
When are orders due again?

Notice to Poland: You shall not get away with this betrayal. Russia officially declares war on Poland.

Orders shall be do....Saturday May 8th at 9 P.M. EST (GMT -5). I have tons of time then. Btw, get going I have a feeling there will be LOTS of PMs for you guys to send ;). I'm so glad to GM this, it's action-packed-and-rox0rz-my-TML box0rz.

Cygnus
05-06-2004, 9:25 PM
I'm glad I'm not the onl... uhh nevermind. I have a woman for that. :D

EDIT: Orders are in!

Maegtelluma
05-06-2004, 10:30 PM
My orders will be put in ASAP. (note signature, sorry for possible issue)

Cygnus
05-07-2004, 9:35 PM
Just so everyone know's it's 1999. Beware of Y2k. ^^

Modred
05-07-2004, 10:23 PM
Hey Cyg, did you see the Y2K episode of Family Guy, when the world was destroyed as all the nuclear missiles fired? That was great.

Whiteknight
05-08-2004, 12:27 AM
Hey Cyg, did you see the Y2K episode of Family Guy, when the world was destroyed as all the nuclear missiles fired? That was great.Heh, that was a good one. "He used to dress up as wonderwoman" or something like that. Heh. I watched them all, have the 3 seasons. I can't wait until January of next year... new episodes!

Orders shall be in tomorrow at around 1 or 2 pm, latest 4.

tanain_hawkwing
05-08-2004, 5:40 AM
Orders pmed

Cygnus
05-08-2004, 7:16 AM
Modred, who hasn't... :)

madman5
05-08-2004, 3:28 PM
Orders PMed

Whiteknight
05-08-2004, 3:29 PM
Orders being PMed.

BlackHawk
05-08-2004, 9:49 PM
Well, I have everyone's but Oboe's (and Matti's as usual)...do you guys think I should wait or do mappage?

Maegtelluma
05-08-2004, 10:06 PM
IM oboeguru and see what's up.

edit: maybe to make it fair you do "basic" moves for this matti fellow in case he is replaced?

Maegtelluma
05-08-2004, 10:15 PM
I hate to double post, but i wanted this to show up as a new post.- the reason you dont have pm orders from oboe is because he surrendered right after the last map was posted...looks like we missed it because it is a few pages back.

OboeGuru
05-08-2004, 10:26 PM
Thanks for straightening that out Maeg.

Yeah. I'm pretty much screwed 6 ways from Sunday. I just made disband orders for this turn, and essentially told all my troops to stand still and twiddle their thumbs.
/me twiddles thumbs:
Doo de do doo dee doo de do doo doo...

BlackHawk
05-08-2004, 10:37 PM
Ohhhh, heh sorry missed that. Good thing anyway, I disbanded those units anyway. And when you say surrender does that mean you want all your troops to hold? Or you actually surrender and France becomes a neutral country?

Maegtelluma
05-08-2004, 10:43 PM
No problem.

Maybe have the units support each other until they are disbanded? Just so one army cant go take the whole place. Or you could take over. I'm not sure if there is a standard for what to do in this situation...

BlackHawk
05-08-2004, 10:51 PM
BH’s Open – Modern Diplo
“Impending Defeat” Spring 1999

Summary

France is yet again pounded by the German-Italian alliance. Italy decides to spend it’s resources on a fleet set to match that of the Spaniards, who succesfuly take back occupation of their home SC and occupy one of Italy’s. Turkey finds itself facing down an Italian navy as the other half of the Great Italian navy moves west, it seems he wasn’t to happy about Turkey helping Ukraine into Serbia. Turkey also succesfuly invades more of Egypts land and moves to take all of the Black Sea. Germany and Poland both perform mass reshufflings of their forces, while Russia uses Polands reshuffling time to retreat into his home SC’s, ready for a final stand-off. England becomes active again and it’s Royal Fleet moves out into the surrounding see’s, one fighting with Germany for Norway. Ukraine and Italy fight for Croatia and Ukraine also manages to occupy Sev once more.

Germany (Cygnus):

F Ham
F Ber
A Fra
-----
A Par-Bri
A Als-Par
A Mun-Als
A Fra-Mun
F Hol-Bel
F Ham-Hol
F Swe-Nor (Bounce)
F Den-Ska
F Ber-Bhm
A Cze Hold

Egypt (Mattimeo):

NMR

All units hold. F Red Disbands.

Spain (Subjukator):

A Madrid
-----
A Madrid-Bar
F South Atlantic Ocean-SoG
A Morocco-Algeria
F Western Mediterranean-Tunisia
F Gulf of Lyon S A Madrid-Bar
A Bor Hold

Italy (Madman5):

Retreat F Ser-Adr
-----
F Ven
F Rom
F Nap
-----
F Adr-Ionian
F Nap S F Adr-Ionian
F Ven-Apu
F Rom-Tyr
A Tus-Pie
A Swi-Mar
F Lig S A Swi-Mar
A Mil-Aus
A Hun-Cro (Bounce)
F Bar-Wme

Russia (WhiteKnight):

Disband F Sev
-----
A Vol-Gor
A Crp-Vol
A Lap-Mur
F Gob-Stp

Poland (TGB):

A Lit
-----
A Mos Hold
A Bie Support A Mos Hold
A Kra Hold
F Lat-Gulf of Bothnia
F Baltic Sea Support F Lat-Gulf of Bothnia
A Lit-Lat

Ukraine (Maegtelluma):

A Kiev
A Ode
-----
A Ode - Rum
A Serbia - Cro (Bounce)
A Don - Sev
A Kha - Volga
A Kiev S A Don - Sev

France (OboeGuru):

All units hold. F Iri and A Pie Disband; F Mar (Dislodged).

Turkey (ForeignKid):

F Ist
F Izm
A Ada
-----
A Ada- Syr
A Gre - Nap (Convoy Cut)
F Ion convoy A Gre - Nap (Dislodged)
F Ank - EBS
F Ist - WBS
F Cai - Asw
A Bul hold

Britain(Tanian Hawkwing):

F Edi -> Nwg
F Liv -> Nao
F Nth -> Nor (Bounce)

Builds / Retreats / Disbands / SC Count

Germany: 0/-/0/10
Egypt: 0/-/0/2
Spain: 0/-/0/6
Italy: 0/-/0/10
Russia: 0/-/1/4
Poland: 0/-/0/6
Ukraine: 0/-/0/6
France: 0/F Mar - (Auv)/0/3
Turkey: 0/F Ion - (Aeg, Mal, Lbn, EMe)/0/9
Britain: 0/-/0/3

Map

http://www.yoxio.com/img/38670.jpg

Maegtelluma
05-09-2004, 12:02 AM
When are the next orders due?

Cygnus
05-09-2004, 7:30 AM
One of the best modern games I've ever seen let alone played in... :)

EDIT:

Maybe have the units support each other until they are disbanded? Just so one army cant go take the whole place. Or you could take over. I'm not sure if there is a standard for what to do in this situation...
All units hold, that's what the rule book says in fact.

BlackHawk
05-09-2004, 9:26 AM
When are the next orders due?

Sheesh, I keep forgetting, lol. Umm...let's say next orders are due Tuesday May 11 at 8 P.M. EST (GMT -5). (I'm making it due at 8 so I can have more time and maybe finish it that night).

Subjukator
05-09-2004, 11:21 AM
Damn there's so many units on the map its hard to keep track of it all

Maegtelluma
05-09-2004, 12:24 PM
Ok, thanks Cygnus....looks like Italy and Spain get to fight over those practically free sc's.

Cygnus
05-09-2004, 3:15 PM
Dude, that's standard procedure though... You live by the rules, you die by the rules. I've played in games were people got a few extra SCs because of someone surrendering. It's not great but it's the way it works.

Subjukator
05-10-2004, 1:54 PM
Orders PMed

madman5
05-10-2004, 2:41 PM
Orders PMed

Cygnus
05-11-2004, 10:46 AM
Ordersies in.

Subjukator
05-11-2004, 2:41 PM
In order to save BH the post count, I'll just keep this "warning post for GM only" thing warm and say that the orders are due at 8pm on this Tuesday!!! (thats today for all other people)

BlackHawk
05-11-2004, 2:43 PM
Just a friendly reminder, as always: your orders are due Tonight (May 11) at 8 P.M. EST (GMT -5). I will send out a PM now to remind those I have not received orders from.

EDIT: I'll take the post anyway :D.

Cygnus
05-11-2004, 2:51 PM
Spammer! ;)

Subjukator
05-11-2004, 7:35 PM
I can't wait until the next year... :)

BlackHawk
05-11-2004, 9:21 PM
Map will be up tommorow (I have a half-day, wewt).

Cygnus
05-11-2004, 9:50 PM
Lucky Bastard. ^^

Maegtelluma
05-12-2004, 11:00 AM
lol me too, weird...


lucky us!

Cygnus
05-12-2004, 11:05 AM
Atleast I get half a day next week for Prom. :p

Subjukator
05-12-2004, 6:32 PM
GM gets half a day to put up the map and it still isn't here /stereotype

:)

BlackHawk
05-12-2004, 6:45 PM
Some technical difficulties and ForeignKid said he would give his orders in yesterday, I called him but he's at track right now. I'm not gonna wait much longer, I'm gonna call him now if he ain't home, his bad, the map will be up by 8:30 (my time) at the latest.

BlackHawk
05-12-2004, 8:46 PM
I think this deserves a second post, should grab all of your attention :D. And sorry for the lateness, FK kept changing his mind on his orders :smirk:. And check your orders as always.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

BH’s Open – Modern Diplo
“Standing Room Only” Fall 1999

Summary

France is defeated as Germany and Italy finally defeat their nemesis! And Turkey defeats the Egyptians. The Germans, in a move that caught the Spaniards off guard, captures Bor. However Spain did a lot of conquesting, gaining back his Home SC from Italy and capturing Libya. However they failed to keep Tun from the retreating Italian fleet. Speaking of the Italian navy, it seems to be suspiciously moving East. Germany finally gains Norway after a quick skirmish with the British who seem to not notice the free SC of Ireland to the North West of their homeland. A stray English fleet happens upon the border of Portugal, maybe some hostility with Spain to settle? Russia is now taking his last breaths as Poland digs deeper into his homeland, he may have to rely on his old enemy Ukraine for some help. Ukraine moves into the Eastern Black Sea, surprisingly with Turkish consent, an odd move. A large-scale world war seems to be just on the brink as all the powers are running out of room. And after the French defeat, it seems no neutral countries are safe anymore.

Germany (Cygnus):

A Bri-Bor
A Par S A Bri-Bor
A Als-Lyo
F Bhm-Den
F Bel-Nth (Bounce)
F Hol-Hel (Bounce)
F Swe-Nor
F Ska S F Swe-Nor
A Cze-Slo
A Mun-Sax

Egypt (Mattimeo): ELIMINATED F ‘99

NMR

All units hold.

Spain (Subjukator):

F SoG-Western Mediterranean
F Gulf of Lyon S F SoG-Western Mediterranean
A Bor Hold (Dislodged)
A Bar Hold
A Algeria-Libya
F Tunisia S A Algeria-Libya (Cut) (Dislodged)

Italy (Madman5):

F Wme-Tun
F Tyr S F Wme-Tun
F Nap-Mal
F Ionian S F Nap-Mal
F Apu-Adr
A Aus-Cro
A Hun S A Aus-Cro (Cut) (Dislodged)
A Pie-Mon
F Lig S A Pie-Mon
A Mar S German A Als-Lyo

Russia (WhiteKnight):

A Vol-Mos (Bounce)
A Gor S A Vol-Mos
F Stp S A Vol-Mos (Cut) (Dislodged)
A Mur S F Stp

Poland (TGB):

A Lat-StP
F GoB Support A Lat-StP
A Mos Support A Lat-StP
A Bie Support A Mos
F Bal Hold
A Kra Hold

Ukraine (Maegtelluma):

A Kiev - Podolia
A Rum - Hungary
A Serbia S A Rum - Hungary
A Kha holds
F Rostov - Eastern Black Sea

France (OboeGuru): ELIMINATED F ‘99

NMR

All units hold.

Turkey (ForeignKid):

F Ion reatreats to EMe
-----
F EMe - Ale
F Asw S F EMe - Ale
F Izm – Aeg
A Bul H
F WBS S A Bul H
A Syr – Isr
F EBS - Ank
A Gre H
A Geo H

Britain(Tanian Hawkwing):

F Nwg-Nor (Bounce)
F Nth-Hel (Bounce)
F Nao-Mao

Builds / Retreats / Disbands / SC Count

Germany: 3/-/0/13
Egypt: Eliminated Fall ‘99
Spain: 1/A Bor – (Auv, Nav, or Disband), F Tun – (Alg or Diband)/0/7
Italy: 0/A Hun – (Aus or Disband)/0/10
Russia: 0/F StP – (Est, Fin, or Disband)/2/2
Poland: 1/-/0/7
Ukraine: 2/-/0/8
France: Eliminated Fall ‘99
Turkey: 3/-/0/12
Britain: 0/-/0/3

Map:

http://www.yoxio.com/img/40302.jpg

Next orders (Spring '00 [dun dun dun] ) are due: Friday May 14th at 9 P.M. EST (GMT -5).

Whiteknight
05-13-2004, 12:26 AM
Sigh....

I'll show you last breathe! *shakes fist*

Subjukator
05-13-2004, 6:26 AM
Cygnus, ONCE AGAIN, backstabs me...

Cygnus
05-13-2004, 9:31 AM
Not exactly, you're the one who PMed me and asked me to backstab my ally Italy. Then happened to give me all your plans...

Subjukator
05-13-2004, 10:20 AM
You still backstabbed me.

Cygnus
05-13-2004, 10:25 AM
Still though...

Cygnus
05-14-2004, 10:23 AM
Orders PMed.

Subjukator
05-14-2004, 10:25 AM
Well I still knew the meaning of trust. And I thought I could trust you... alas twice has shown me that I can't. So be it. The beginning of the end for me has begun...

madman5
05-14-2004, 2:40 PM
Orders PMed

BlackHawk
05-14-2004, 4:02 PM
Another reminder (I like these :D) that your orders for Spring 2000 are due: Tonight (Friday May 14) at 9 P.M. EST (GMT -5). However the map will most likely not be posted until tommorow morning as I am going to a party thingy tonight and may not have enough time to finish it.

I will be PM'ing those who haven't sent in orders as always.

Orders PMed.

Orders PMed

Got both of 'em.

Subjukator
05-14-2004, 4:41 PM
I might need an extension because some of my allies aren't on right now and I need to finalize plans with them...

Whiteknight
05-14-2004, 4:49 PM
I'll try to get them in tonight, but I'm going golfing. I'll see, I might be able to make it before 7, I guess with the time difference. Just see, I might need an extension though.

BlackHawk
05-14-2004, 5:01 PM
Well with two people possibly needing an extension, the due date in now changed to: Saturday March 15 at 7 P.M. EST (GMT -5). That should give me enough time to finish the map that night...it might be posted on Sunday morning though, depends how long the map takes.

Subjukator
05-14-2004, 6:45 PM
Cool. I was bout to say that if I didn't post in this thread saying that I didn't need the extension, I would need an extension. But make it like noon or something so that we can get orders in early.

Whiteknight
05-14-2004, 8:32 PM
Well, it is 7:30 here so that means it must be 9:30 for you there. I did miss the due date, then, I'll get them in now, though. (3.5 hours of golfing. For a 9-hole... At least I got my moneys worth :))

Maegtelluma
05-14-2004, 9:26 PM
I'll say, i can generally do nine holes in just over two hours. Must have been crowded.

Whiteknight
05-14-2004, 9:37 PM
It was pretty crowded, there we some slow people in front of us.

I suppose it didn't help that it was the first game of the season for me, either. ;)

Maegtelluma
05-14-2004, 9:39 PM
Lol yeah, i've yet to play this season. My first round is going to be an oh-my-god-i'm-terrible experience. I hate having slow people in front of me...lol

Orders are in.

Subjukator
05-15-2004, 12:42 PM
Orders PMed

Whiteknight
05-15-2004, 3:03 PM
Okay, getting orders in right now.

If anyone said anything important to me over PMs, please resend it as I accidentally deleted all of my PMs. Sigh...

Whiteknight
05-15-2004, 3:09 PM
Here are my orders.

Disband F Stp
Disband A Mur

---

A Gor - Mos
A Vol S A Gor - Mos

EDIT: Oops, sorry about the double post, I'm making mistakes today.

Subjukator
05-15-2004, 6:27 PM
Map will be up tommorow.

Probably will be anywayz :p

Cygnus
05-15-2004, 7:28 PM
You never know... ^^

TheGreatBrain
05-15-2004, 9:07 PM
Whew, just back from Boston.

Polish Orders:

A War

A War-Lit
F Gulf of Bothnia Support A StP
A StP Support A Mos
A Mos Support A StP
A Bie Hold
A Kra Support A Bie Hold
A Baltic Sea Hold

BlackHawk
05-15-2004, 9:44 PM
Sorry guys, I went to see Hellboy with some friends then we went to dinner then back to one guys house, just got back. Map may be up tonight, however this is highly unlikely and should be up tommorow, sorry for all the delays.

Cygnus
05-15-2004, 9:46 PM
Being a fellow GM myself I understand... it can get hectic sometimes.

BlackHawk
05-16-2004, 11:18 AM
BH’s Open – Modern Diplo
“Hold Happy” Spring 2000

Summary

The world held their breath as a large conflict involving Ukraine, Italy and Germany erupted in the middle of Europe. Everything was centered around Ukraines capture of Hungary last Fall. However through some well thought out moves on Ukraines part everyone stayed where they were. At the same time Ukraine’s new reinforcements move south towards Turkey, oblivious to the major struggle to the west. Germany captures the North Sea with a suprising amount of firepower that caught the stationary English fleets of guard. Russia tries to gain back their capital and leaves Murmansk to bring more firepower on the Polish units in Moscow. Italies fleets move around to try and gain a tactical advantage over Turkey and Spain, but fails to do anything of real importance. All countries perform mass reshufflings of their forces.

Germany (Cygnus):

F Ham
F Ber
A Mun
-----
A Mun Hold
A Sax Hold
A Slo S Italian A Aus-Hun (Cut)
F Ber-Bhm
F Den S F Ber-Bhm
F Ham-Hel
F Hol-Nth
F Bel S F Hol-Nth
F Nor S F Hol-Nth
F Ska S F Nor
A Bor-Nav (Bounce)
A Lyo-Auv
A Par S A Lyo-Auv

Egypt (Mattimeo): ELIMINATED F ‘99

Spain (Subjukator):

F Tunisia retreats to Algeria
A Bor retreats to Nav
-----
F Svl
-----
F Svl-Portugal
F Algeria-Tunisia (Bounce)
F Western Mediterranean-Tyrrhenian Sea (Bounce)
F Gulf of Lyon-Lig (Bounce)
A Libya S F Algeria-Tunisia
A Bar S A Nav
A Nav Hold

Italy (Madman5):

A Hun Retreats to Aus
-----
A Aus-Hun (Bounce)
A Cro S A Aus-Hun (Cut)
F Adr S A Cro
A Mar S German A Lyo-Auv
A Mon S A Mar
F Tun Hold
F Tyr S F Tun Hold (Cut)
F Lig S F Tyr (Cut)
F Mal S F Tun Hold
F Ion-Lbn (Bounce)

Russia (WhiteKnight):

Disband F Stp
Disband A Mur
-----
A Gor – Mos (Bounce)
A Vol S A Gor - Mos

Poland (TGB):

A War
-----
A War-Lit
F Gulf of Bothnia Support A StP
A StP Support A Mos
A Mos Support A StP
A Bie Hold
A Kra Support A Bie Hold
A Baltic Sea Hold

Ukraine (Maegtelluma):

A Ode
A Kiev
-----
A Ode - Rum
A Podolia – Slo (Bounce)
A Kha - Don
A Sev hold
A Serbia S A Hungary – Croatia
A Hungary – Croatia (Bounce)
A Kiev - Ode
A E.B.S hold

France (OboeGuru): ELIMINATED F ‘99

Turkey (ForeignKid):

F Ist
F Izm
F Ada
-----
A Gre – Mac
F Ist – Gre
F Aeg – Ion (Bounce)
F Ada - EMe
F Izm S F Ada – EMe
F Ale – Lbn (Bounce)
F Asw – Cai
F WBS H
F Ank S WBS H
A Isr – Jor
A Geo H
A Bul S A Ser H (I’ll let it slide this time, however remember to place the country who’s unit you are helping, i.e. this would be “A Bul S Ukrainian A Ser H")

Britain (Tanain Hawkwing):

NMR

All units hold. (F Nth H (Dislodged) )

Builds / Retreats / Disbands / SC Count

Germany: 0/-/0/13
Egypt: Eliminated Fall ‘99
Spain: 0/-/0/7
Italy: 0/-/0/10
Russia: 0/-/0/2
Poland: 0/-/0/7
Ukraine: 0/-/0/8
France: Eliminated Fall ‘99
Turkey: 0/-/0/12
Britain: 0/F Nth – (Lon, Yor, Edi)/0/3

Map:

http://www.yoxio.com/img/41529.jpg

Next orders (Fall 2000) are due: Wednesday May 19th at 8 P.M EST (GMT -5).

Cygnus
05-16-2004, 12:32 PM
Interesting...

EDIT: Ukraine we need to talk...

Subjukator
05-16-2004, 12:39 PM
Germany MUST we fight?

...

:(

Cygnus
05-16-2004, 9:42 PM
Orders will hopefully be up tomarrow night. If not, BH, could I get an extension to Thursday because Prom and our School picnic will be on Tuesday and Wendesday.

BlackHawk
05-16-2004, 9:49 PM
Orders will hopefully be up tomarrow night. If not, BH, could I get an extension to Thursday because Prom and our School picnic will be on Tuesday and Wendesday.

Sure thing.

Btw, I will be gone from Friday night to Sunday because of a Camp Orientation thingy (I'm a CLA and we're going up to do...stuff...:\ ). So if you get an extension to Thursday the due time will probably be 4 p.m. so that I could do the map that night and then the Spring 2K1 would be due Sat or Sun so I could do the map on Mon.

Cygnus
05-17-2004, 9:57 AM
Alright, thank ye. Orders should be in after 8 tonight once I get back from my new amazing job. :bigsmile:

madman5
05-17-2004, 2:58 PM
What do u do? Sell potatoes?

Cygnus
05-17-2004, 7:52 PM
Work at a comic book shop. :p

Modred
05-17-2004, 10:30 PM
Work at a comic book shop. :p

Ooh...that's cool. I am in awe of your comic book shop awesomeness.

Subjukator
05-18-2004, 2:34 PM
Orders PMed

Maegtelluma
05-18-2004, 8:59 PM
Sorry, but i'm not going to be able to get my orders in tonight. There has been an extension to thursday, yes? Just wanted to make sure- i should be able to get them in tomorrow night.

BlackHawk
05-19-2004, 3:33 PM
Sorry, but i'm not going to be able to get my orders in tonight. There has been an extension to thursday, yes? Just wanted to make sure- i should be able to get them in tomorrow night.

Yes there has been an extension, the orders are due: tommorow (Thursday May 20) at 4 p.m. EST (GMT -5). Note the 4 p.m.

madman5
05-20-2004, 6:48 AM
Ok, due to the fact that my computer is pretty damn broke I will not be able to post alot. So since I will be gone, I am letting Cygnus PM orders for me in my absence. I hope I can get my computer to work, damn teachers at school think I'm in a chat room........

Subjukator
05-20-2004, 10:10 AM
Please explain that again. Your bascially letting Cygnus control your country until you come back right? Um no. That would allow him control of two of the most powerful nations in this game.

Cygnus
05-20-2004, 11:00 AM
We already know though what each other wants to do. We've been discussing that since the beginning of the game. . .

Subjukator
05-20-2004, 1:56 PM
No. Cygnus will not be given command of Italy and Germany or there will be a problem. It would give you an unfair advantage over everyone else.

BlackHawk
05-20-2004, 2:15 PM
No. Cygnus will not be given command of Italy and Germany or there will be a problem. It would give you an unfair advantage over everyone else.

If they were not allies and there was no permission, then Cygnus would not get command of Italy. However, they are allies and Madman has given his permission to Cygnus. Therefore since Madman has said Cygnus can control his country for this turn (if he is gone for more, I may get a replacement for the mean time), I will allow Cygnus to send in orders for Italy on Madman's behalf.

Btw, orders are due in approx. 1 Hour (EST time, GMT -5). If many nations do not send their orders in, the time will be postponed until later tonight, however the latest is 8 I can set it back to as tommorow I have no time whatsoever to work on the map.

Subjukator
05-20-2004, 2:24 PM
What the F***!! That is so f**ken unfair to everyone.

Do you even realize what Cygnus can do with Italy and Germany combined? How can you even allow this? I will not stand by and let this happen.

I call for an extension until a vote is ratified by a majority of the players whether to allow Cygnus command of Italy and Germany.

If the GM will not allow this vote to happen and prefers to be a tyrannical dictator ( :p ) then I will not be able to participate in this game.

BlackHawk
05-20-2004, 2:35 PM
Do you even realize what Cygnus can do with Italy and Germany combined? How can you even allow this? I will not stand by and let this happen.


Do you realize that they have been working together the whole game. What he will do now I'm 90% sure would have been done anyway. I can allow this because I know they are allied, the only reason you do not like it is because you realize they are both against you. No hard feelings but it's the truth.

I call for an extension until a vote is ratified by a majority of the players whether to allow Cygnus command of Italy and Germany.

Fine, have it your way. Now you will have to wait until Mon for the map, or Tuesday depends how I'm feeling.

Voting starts now, you can post in this thread, or PM me your answer, whichever you prefer.

Subjukator
05-20-2004, 2:38 PM
Thanks BlackHawk. I vote against.

BlackHawk
05-20-2004, 2:39 PM
I will dispatch a PM to all powers with a link to the thread and a summary, they might be a little confused since I PM'ed them that the orders are due at 4...:D.

Cygnus
05-20-2004, 5:20 PM
Nevertheless, German orders will be in tonight.

Madman, read your PMs in school tomarrow if you can.

Whiteknight
05-20-2004, 7:13 PM
Are orders due tonight? Hrm... better get them in now just to make sure.

Sorry about taking so long, but I just got back from our trip.

I'll PM my answer to you, BH.

BlackHawk
05-20-2004, 7:19 PM
M'kay, just to clear things up, the due date for orders is postponed while the vote goes on. Once all the results are in (i.e. everyone's voted) I will post a new final date for the orders. However if your orders do not depend on Cygnus controlling both Italy and Germany or whatever, then I will accept your orders. It's your call.

TheGreatBrain
05-20-2004, 7:27 PM
I vote against.

Composing orders now.

Whiteknight
05-20-2004, 7:29 PM
I vote against.

Composing orders now.I wonder why? :rolleyes:

Aheh.

Okay, I'm going to hold off on orders then until the vote is done.

Whiteknight
05-21-2004, 1:14 AM
Wow... I'm still sort of stunned, I don't really expect things like this to happen. Maybe it's because I'm live in a small town... It's just... wow...

In light of recent events, even if we may regret the loss of Cygnus from the forum, we still have to move on. Germany will have to be replaced by another person, so we better start finding someone else.

We have to face facts, we are losing more Diplomacy players than we are gaining. In all of the games, it will only be the same people over and over. First Shini is gone, and then Cygnus. I do hope we do not lose any more people, as it is always sad when something bad happens to a person and Diplo will suffer.

Subjukator
05-21-2004, 7:39 AM
The vote is called off due to obvious reasons.