BH's Open - Modern Diplo

[Maegtelluma]

This game is pretty much decided already :cry:


I officially propose an alliance of all non-Germany players to attack Germany :)



:p

[OboeGuru]

Silence wench.

Be thankful I'm not attacking you head-on. :p ;)

[Subjukator]

I lose because of my computer breaking down thus missing one or two orders. I spent so much time analyzing my moves and making sure I was going to come out ahead, some fluke with my old comp was bound to be caused by bad voodoo.

That is the explanation for my failure. Orders below. :)


F Mon-Lig
F Gulf of Lyon-We Me
F Bay of Biscay-Nav
A Bar-Madrid
F Bor Hold
A Libya S F Tunisia
F Tunisia S A Libya
A Auv-Bar

[TheBB]

I'll make the map tomorrow.

[Maegtelluma]

You have all orders, right?

Want to make sure I didn't send them to the wrong GM....again :rolleyes:

[TheBB]

No, I got the orders. :)

[TheBB]

BH's Open, Fall 2003

Germany enters Spain's backyard. Now that's the definition of ass-kicking!
Italy loses 60% of his supply centres.
Sweden temporarily liberated from the german grinding machine, but for how long?
Poland robs a SC from Ukraine. I wonder what Ukraine has to say about that...
In total, Turkey/Germany gains 5, and the opposition loses 5.

Germany (OboeGuru):

A Pie -> Mon
A Kra S A War -> Bie
A Hun S Turkish F Rum
F Bhm -> Bal
F Lit S F Bhm -> Bal
F Eng C A Bri -> Por
F MAO C A Bri -> Por
F SAO -> Svl
F Swe H (DISLODGED)
F Nor -> Lap
A Bri -> Por
A Mar S A Pie -> Mon
A Lyo S A Mar
A Aus -> Cro
A War -> Bie
A Pic -> Par
A Gda S F Lit
A Ruh -> Bel
A Swi S A Mar
A Mun -> Aus
A Sax -> Cze
F Den S F Swe H
A Pru H

Spain (Subjukator):

F Mon-Lig
F Gulf of Lyon-We Me
F Bay of Biscay-Nav
A Bar-Madrid
F Bor Hold
A Libya S F Tunisia
F Tunisia S A Libya
A Auv-Bar

Italy (LordAhriman):

A Mil h
A Ven h
F Apu h
F Rom h
F Adr h

Poland (TGB):

A Bie-Kie
A Mos-Bie
A Lat Support A Mos-Bie
F Baltic Sea-Swe
F Gulf of Bothnia Support F Baltic Sea-Swe
A Fin Support F Baltic Sea-Swe

Ukraine (Maegtelluma):

A Rostov-Geo
A Don - East. Black Sea
A Sev hold
A Mol - Rum
A Ode S A Mol - Rum
A Pod S A Mol - Rum
A Bulgaria - Istanbul

Turkey (Whiteknight):

A Aze - Cau
A Geo S A Aze - Cau
A Cai - Ale
F Esa - lib
F Nap S F Tyr - Rom
F Tyr - Rom
F Ion - Apu
A Ist - Bul
F Gre H
A Ser S F Rum
F Wbs S F Rum
F Rum S A Ist - Bul
F Alb - Adr
F Ebs S A Geo

RETREATS:

GERMANY, retreat F Swe to Bhm, Ska or Nor, or disband it.

BUILDS:

GERMANY, 4 captured SCs, 1 lost SC, 3 builds (4 if you disband yer unit)
SPAIN, 7 SCs and 8 units, disband 1
ITALY, 3 lost SCs, disband 3
POLAND, 2 captured SCs, 1 lost, build 1
TURKEY, 2 captured SCs, 2 builds
UKRAINE, 2 lost SCs, disband 2

Just get your builds/disbands/retreats in so we can get on with it. Btw, what is the SC victory condition here?

http://www.aligulac.net/diplomacy/bhopen1/2003_b_fall.gif

[Maegtelluma]

Disband A Bul and A Ros

[TheBB]

Crap. Lit is GERMAN and the fleet there is also GERMAN.

[TheGreatBrain]

*Sigh... I think that's the last hurrah for the Poles.

Well, considering I have nowhere to build, I guess I have no adjustments.

[Cygnus]

That would mean Germany get's four builds (five if he disbands a unit).

[OboeGuru]

Holy crap!

I applaud you, TGB, the one time I don't support Sweden Hold with two units is the time you attack with three.

That deserves some commendation.

/me throws party for TGB.

- - - - -

Retreat to Norway.

It's 33 SCs to win. (64 SCs total, that's 51% rounded up for those wondering about that figure.)

[Maegtelluma]

How many SC's do you have? I counted but I don't trust....twentysomething?

[OboeGuru]

27, is the number you're looking for, I believe.
I could be wrong though. That happens form time to time. ;)

[Maegtelluma]

So, basically, not long at all :(

I seem to be on the downslope anyway...

[TheBB]

Holy crap!

I applaud you, TGB, the one time I don't support Sweden Hold with two units is the time you attack with three.

That deserves some commendation.

* OboeGuru throws party for TGB.

- - - - -

Retreat to Norway.

It's 33 SCs to win. (64 SCs total, that's 51% rounded up for those wondering about that figure.)

Would you like yer builds as a side dish to that retreat?

Eyeing the fact that there's only one retreat, I guess we can just munch the entire shobaloo together. Don't you agree?

[Subjukator]

At least I'll last until the end! SPAIN SHALL PERSERVERE!

That's about the only plus that Spain's got, good defensive position.

[Maegtelluma]

Heh...that's the one good thing about this. Maybe I'll be able to hold off the Turkish menace until the end.

[OboeGuru]

Build A Ber, A Fra, A Mun, F Ham.

Has everyone else gotten adjustments in?

[Maegtelluma]

Do I have them in already? I'll pm them if not.

[Whiteknight]

Build F Izm, A Ank

[OboeGuru]

Who's delinquent? Or is BB off somewhere having fun without us?

Perhaps we need a surrogate mapmaker.

*bursts into song* Mapmaker, mapmaker, make me a map...
Name the Musical I'm spoofing and get a cookie! :)

[Whiteknight]

Is it... the Fenguin dance?

/me dances

[Cygnus]

BB's on vacation... if you need someone for mappage I could. :)

Which means I need retreats and builds if you PMed them to BB. Also Germany you know you have four builds and a retreat right?

(Because Lit is German, BB never corrected his mistake)

[Subjukator]

Is it really even neccessary to continue the game besides determining who's going to survive until Germany wins the number of SC's it needs to do that?

[OboeGuru]

Also Germany you know you have four builds and a retreat right?

(Because Lit is German, BB never corrected his mistake)
Yup, I know, that's why I posted four builds and a retreat. :p

[TheBB]

I'll get around to making the map today or tomorrow. Just came home from vacation, so excuse me while I don't leap at the chance to make a diplomacy map as first thing to do. Especially one where we need some kind of divine intervention if things are going to get even remotely interesting.

[OboeGuru]

Divine Intervention to say "Screw it, Germany will own you all!"? ;)

Hey, if you want to call the game, that's fine with me. This isn't going to be handled for points until I reconfigure the point system a little, anyway.

[TheBB]

We'll finish the game in a proper fashion unless everyone votes unanimously (sp?) to end it now, with whatever result. But yeah, divine intervention to say just that. =)

[Maegtelluma]

Heh, end it so that WK can't finish me off :)I'm game either way, I think I can hold out until the end.

[OboeGuru]

How about a map while we're waiting for all the posts to flood in asking for an ending? ;)

I'd like to see what I could do and discuss in terms of smashy smashy in case we go on.

[OboeGuru]

DOUBLEPOSTAGE!!!

I don't know about you guys, but I either want this to a] end, or b] get a map up.

So if you want this game to continue, everyone who PMed their last whatevers PM them to me and I'll make a map.

[LordAhriman]

I vote to end it. Not too much more to see here, especially for me.

[Maegtelluma]

With three games in the queue, I don't see why we're keeping this open. Just declare it over as a Germany win, I think we decided that it would be an exhibition anyway. :) Maybe discredit those who were eliminated, but don't score the whole thing.

[OboeGuru]

I leave the decision to TheBB as to whether or not to end the game.

[Cygnus]

I have an invitational that's craving to be unleashed. But I would like to see German regain it's rightful place.

[Subjukator]

Ditch this game and put up another game plz!!

[Maegtelluma]

Yeah, I want my game to come around eventually :)

Abberation is next isn't it?

[Cygnus]

Yeah abberation is next I believe.

[Maegtelluma]

Yeah, I just checked and Aberration is the next game up. I like the looks of the map (I saw it preloaded in RealPolitik). And the country setup is nice, quite a few neutral Supply Centres. Nice nine players. Should be fun :)

[OboeGuru]

My Aberration map > any other Aberration map. :)

[Maegtelluma]

Could you pm me the link to it? :)

[OboeGuru]

Hey Whiteknight, if you're still up for it, we just barely can call an allied win...

43 is the requirement for a team win, if I'm not mistaken (67% control), that's what we have between us: my 27 and your 16.

Just a thought. ;)

[Whiteknight]

Hey Whiteknight, if you're still up for it, we just barely can call an allied win...

43 is the requirement for a team win, if I'm not mistaken (67% control), that's what we have between us: my 27 and your 16.

Just a thought. ;)
I agree to do an allied win.

That makes all other countries' opinions null and void. Good game everyone!

[Maegtelluma]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[OboeGuru]

Hey, I believe you said you wanted the game to end. Now it has. :p

That is, if TheBB doesn't mind it ending this way...

[Whiteknight]

Hey, I believe you said you wanted the game to end. Now it has. :p

That is, if TheBB doesn't mind it ending this way...
TheBB has no choice in the matter. The players decide when to end things. :p

[Subjukator]

Good. Now lets divvy up the points already and put up your aberration game plz :)

[Maegtelluma]

Might as well, I wasn't in a winning situation in this game :(

[Cygnus]

I thought no one would get points for this game? Well no matter, I still expanded from 4 to 13+ centers. So I should get some. :p

[Maegtelluma]

Well, yeah, we decided it wasn't for points after all of the replacements, but whatever, I just wanted to be a "Survivor" in his solo win.

[Cygnus]

I thought the new system allowed for the replacements to get points as well? Factoring in how many SCs they had in control and how many they started out with.

[OboeGuru]

I thought no one would get points for this game? Well no matter, I still expanded from 4 to 13+ centers. So I should get some. :p
No matter what you think, you're not getting any, if you know what I mean. ;)

[Cygnus]

*shrugs* Whatever. There's still other games where I can make up for it. :D

[OboeGuru]

I still haven't decided what I'm going to do about points.

This will be worth points, after I redo the system for multiple controls. The system as it is now isn't built for it. Stay tuned! ;)

[Cygnus]

Alright, but having a system that took everything into account would be awsome. :p

[OboeGuru]

It will be a work of mathematical art. :p

[Cygnus]

Yeah. The one thing that I'm having trouble getting around is this: how will the percentage of points the origional player had to risk at the beginning? And how much would the replacement player put in? Would the origional player get a "refund" of 50% of the points, while then the replacement player put 50% to take over? Then would every replacement onward continue to follow the precent (like three guys put in 33.33% of the origional points thar were risked, four 25%... so on and so forth). Plus then you could factor then how many SCs they had at the beginning of when they started and when they ended.