Group memberships

[Battlecruiser]

I want to know what group memberships are for. If you don't know what I am talking about then click on someone's profile and it should say under group membership that that person is not a part of any public group. I want to know what group memberships are and why there aren't any. Might I add that I was never a part of blizzforums so if everyone who went to blizzforums knows about this, well I don't.

[Geno]

It actually did come up at BF a few times... More like every 5 days... But still, no worries. We can explain it again. Basically, there is no need for them. I mean, sure, you can say 'Well, what about the map making groups, or RP groups, or whatever...' well, the problem is, that makes others say 'I'm a part of it, and you're not' etc. There was also other details involved with it, but actually, I forgot o.O I might have to surf over to BF to find one of the posts on this. Shouldn't take me more than 10 seconds, seeing as how every 5 threads are like this one... And to be honest, I think there is one right now... I could be wrong though... x.x

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

[Graeme]

Group memberships are very popular in guild-based forums, and other such places, mainly because they allow people to quickly set and remove permissions without much of a hassle. It's very handy when you need to have several hidden forums for adminstration, planning raids, regular members, site design and whatnot.

However, I can't really see them as being much use in public forums like Warboards, since (other than staff/mods/admins), there are not many tiers of responsibility. Everyone has access to access to the main boards, and I would assume they set permissions for the staff forums individually.

[Battlecruiser]

Oh ok. I never knew what they were. Yeah there is no point of groups. It only will create tension. By the way thanks for the replies.

[Schwitzer]

There are private group memberships that can only be set by a Super Administrator. These groups include Administrators, Senior Moderators and Moderators.

As mentioned by Radlin, the public groups allow users to arbitrarily add themselves to said groups. For a forum like WarBoards there is no point because there are no additional benefits to be gained from being involved in a public group. The concern was that public groups would create elitist factions in what we're otherwise trying to mold a united and open community.

[AJ]

Show me a plausible reason for any public usergroup and i'll consider its creation. : )

[Schwitzer]

Create a public group called "Suicide", in which any member accounts that are part of this group are banned ;)

[Seal]

Create a public group called "Suicide", in which any member accounts that are part of this group are banned ;)
Or "forced vacation" group, and users get removed from that group after about 30 days or such ;)
For forum addicts who want to enjoy life.

[Schwitzer]

I can almost hear the request for unbannage coming through right now...

[Seal]

And the answer: After time passes.

[HackingVictim]

*Reads Pinkknight's post* Pink ass hole..........

[Whiteknight]

Or the 'stop posting like an idiot' group, which includes everyone except for HackingVitcm, as he has to make up stupid things by somewhat copying a previous person's post, and he posts in a somewhat dead thread and doesn't include any content or anything relevent in his post.

[HackingVictim]

My Doctor says IM SPECIAL!!!!!! Does your Doctor say that? huh? huh? SO I'm more specailer than U!!!!!!

[hammocksleeper]

AJ is in a group, testing them out or something. I'm a gossip.

[Whiteknight]

After all the things he said...

Blasphemy! Hippocrite!

I say blasphemy too often! Woo! I'm tired and am not making my posts make sense!

HS, what would have made you randomly click on AJ's profile and then make you scroll down and look at the group memberships?

BTW, I've checked around at BF and I didn't see anyone that was part of a group. Unless you count those parties like Krazeeland and Hivemind or whatever they are called. It still wasn't in their profile.

[Ark-templarius]

HS, what would have made you randomly click on AJ's profile and then make you scroll down and look at the group memberships?
Looking at the UserCP works too.

BTW, I've checked around at BF and I didn't see anyone that was part of a group. Unless you count those parties like Krazeeland and Hivemind or whatever they are called.
That's because they don't allow the group option.
As for the little faction thing, that's nothing new. It's just a bunch of nonsense to keep the Chit Chat crowd busy.

[Schwitzer]

Hello, hello... AJ's playing around with something... I wonder what that little devil could be up to...

[Ark-templarius]

He's starting a secret cult.

[Geno]

He's starting a secret cult.

*In a little kid voice*

"Mr. AJ, big person, sir... Can I pway wif you in yow gwoup...?

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

[AJ]

Ahem. Just playing kids.. nothing major. ;)

[AJ]

Ahem. Just playing kids.. nothing major. ;)
just testing.

[pixels]

Ahem. Just playing kids.. nothing major. ;)

I was in t3h groupie and saws staff foram!!1 :ninja: :cool: :p

edit: what the hell the quotes moved!! ah well.

[Battlecruiser]

Yeah all the quotes are messed up. They are all shifted to the right.

[AJ]

Not so much shifted to the right, as centered. ;)
I XHTMLized the code.. and made it more vB 3.0.1 compliant.

[pixels]

Not so much shifted to the right, as centered. ;)
I XHTMLized the code.. and made it more vB 3.0.1 compliant.

hah nice work on the XHTMLeration.

when i get around to making my new site (hopefully sometime this summer <_<) i really want it to be coded in XHTML... just because ;)

[Ark-templarius]

I XHTMLized the code.. and made it more vB 3.0.1 compliant.
Yeah, that really explains the hooded robe you were wearing earlier. :P

[Geno]

Yeah, that really explains the hooded robe you were wearing earlier. :P

*Puts on Wizard robe and hat*

Hmmm... Damn, beaten to the punch... Oh well.

*Casts level 3 Moderation*
Nothing happens!

Damnit... I knew I needed the wizard shoes...

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

P.S. Are you trying to make the UserGroups active or something? I mean, it would be nice to have a thing for certain people. Something I think PC would love, and now I would as well, would be a Christian group with a newsletter we could throw out to the members each week or something. That would be awesome for getting the word out like that. o.O If not, oh well. Just ideas I've thought up...

[AJ]

I'm considering it.

[Geno]

I'm considering it.

Yay! That's always a good thing.

Also, if I may throw more of my money, besides the two cents, that I have out...

If you want to start a group, how about you need to PM an admin or such for it. Make sure it's a group that needs to be formed, or has a good idea could be formed. That way, we don't have the stupid alliance thing going again. That would be perfect for keeping the number of groups down. If not that, then have an area to request groups and such. That would be a nice thing to do, as well, so you can see what's been requested and not.

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

[AJ]

Only an administrator can create public joinable groups. But I can appoint a user to administer that group and handle join requests, if they wish their group to have those.

[Geno]

Only an administrator can create public joinable groups. But I can appoint a user to administer that group and handle join requests, if they wish their group to have those.

So basically, once it's fully tested to some extent and working, you have to validate any requests for a usergroup, and once that's established, whomever chose to start the group is allowed to moderate within the group, IE, let in members and the like, right? If that's the case, great! I'm all for it. Good job so far, but put it out there, if and when you feel ready. No rush ;)

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

[AJ]

There's the whole deal that I don't see any major bonuses to having groups, and until i hear a proposal that sways me.. i see them as remaining as they are.

[Geno]

There's the whole deal that I don't see any major bonuses to having groups, and until i hear a proposal that sways me.. i see them as remaining as they are.

If I may make a request for one, I feel this could be nice to have:

Relgious group for Christians. Headed by myself and Protosschick_99. We can PM to all members a newsletter each month, giving them something to read, and help with faith. Also, this would allow the members to discuss with us the faith, and understand it more. This, of course, would require your permission, PC's as well. I haven't talked it over with her, but I feel she would love to have this. Also, this would allow us the chance to show you how it COULD work.

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

[Whiteknight]

Geno, were you a christian all along or did PC change you? I ask this because you said 'recently'. Also, with all the different christian religions out there , it might not fly. Some people might be part of the Roman catholic, one might be part of the w/e, etc. So I don't know about that, since there is tension between the different parts. Bah, I'm not for all that stuff, I just say that there is a god, but don't worship him or anything. Not for me.

I don't know if I really want group memberships or not. People who are not in the membership, especially the newbies, might feel left out. I don't think the pros outweigh the cons.

[Battlecruiser]

Well the only problem I see it that you guys will stick together leaving out anyone who isn't part of your group. Such as you will only talk to fellow group members and pretty much ignore others.

[Geno]

Alrighty, time to answer posts on this...

Whiteknight: No, I've been Roman Catholic, but actually am looking to change, as there are things I disagree with. I will call it 'Christian' as those are the MORALS the group would follow. We would send out a mass PM every so often with a newsletter kind of thing. It would explain how we see ourselves, stuff to do that would be good for you, etc.

Battlecruiser: If you want to join, go ahead. That's your option. We would love a person to join. I mean, when have you seen me NOT talk to someone? I could care less, newbie or not. Besides, if we don't like you in our group, and you cause trouble and whatnot, we have the power to throw the person out of the group.

Basically, we would do this in order to spread the word of God. Usually, I'm a bit quiet about that, but lately, I've felt the need to spread it, as my recent Girlfriend, who's not really my GF, but a really good female friend, told me about some stories and encounters that she's had. It's really making me think more about Him, and what He can do for you... That's why I suggested this, and who better to lead, than our own resident Christian girl?

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

[AJ]

I'm not quite so sure I'm going to throw my support behind such a group.

[Battlecruiser]

Well I wasn't directing this at you, Geno. Also I don't think you understood what I meant. But whatever, forget it.

[Geno]

I'm not quite so sure I'm going to throw my support behind such a group.

Meh, your choice. Like I know, and have said before: Your site, your rules, your choice. I just suggest things.

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

[AJ]

I just don't like the idea of a religion-based group as it may be seen that we, warboards, support that particular group over others.

[hammocksleeper]

I just don't like the idea of a religion-based group as it may be seen that we, warboards, support that particular group over others.
As long as you allow other religion-based groups to be formed... but you don't want a lot of groups.

[Geno]

I just don't like the idea of a religion-based group as it may be seen that we, warboards, support that particular group over others.

Ah. True. I didn't even think of those consiquences... My apologies for not seeing that one...

~Larry "Geno" Meyers