This will probably be closed, but what the hell...

[Prozerran]

Here's what I'd like to see in the Town Hall. Those of you being called on, don't take offense... just find some of these things are what I appreciate when I come here to read/post.
People, stop saying "this thread will probably be closed" or some other retarded nonsense. Mod's don't need to see random statements like this to close a thread, and you never know when a thread may turn around.
I want to see GenocideAlive argue with himself. Imagine an argument of rebuttals... and I'm not pointing this out negatively. It's the most entertaining phenomenon on this site. Not to mention informative.
I want to see people accept that across the greater spectrum of playing War3, all of us spend just as much time posting on this site than we do actually playing. Addiction? Maybe, but either way we're posting rather than playing... and theorycraft no less. Thus, we aren't as good as we would like to be... if we played more, we would get better.
Someone really needs to place a sticky guide at the top of this Forum that reads "Don't ask stupid questions about War3 until you read this thread". Inside that thread, we need an accepted, standard build order or orders for each race, standard strategies for each match-up of that race, and replay examples for each race showing the build order. Then, we don't have to ask people to go to WCReplays.com everytime someone new comes here to ask for help because they're new.
We need not care about who supplies the replays for the previous comment.
People, records are useful for one thing only - finding people on Bnet. That's it. It shouldn't lend to your credibility to the point that anyone bows down to your greatness and self-image. Realistically, if you're full of shit, you're still full of shit in spite of your record.
Equally so, if your record sucks, it doesn't mean you don't know what you're talking about. Stop talking record when talking about the viability of tactics and strategy. Not only lacking in relevance, it also lacks in support for making an informed response to a posted concept.
When you have 5+ people telling you you're wrong, you probably need to reflect on your opinion and re-evaluate your position. Don't turn around a fling homosexual accusations and other such useless commentary like: "Why don't you go back to play with your Power Rangers because you don't know what you're talking about...
Mods, if you're going to delete posts, at least be consistent. Commentary on the progress of a discussion in any forum is JUST AS RELEVANT as the discussion itself. Don't turn around then and comment on the humorous direction of the discussion when you've deleted other commentary.
The above does not apply if the post is more inflamatory... but for some reason the distinction is made in such a queer manner, it's hard to decipher what you want from us. TELL US WHAT YOU WANT!!!Warboards Rules! Just a few thoughts for you all to ponder, add to, or comment on.

[RedRagToAnOrc]

People, stop saying "this thread will probably be closed" or some other retarded nonsense. Mod's don't need to see random statements like this to close a thread, and you never know when a thread may turn around.

Well, we're just trying to point the mods in the right direction. Many of the more regular posters know when a thread is dead and ask for it to be closed. I had to PM a mod once to get a thread closed, because it had degenerated into childlike insults.

I want to see GenocideAlive argue with himself. Imagine an argument of rebuttals... and I'm not pointing this out negatively. It's the most entertaining phenomenon on this site. Not to mention informative.

That might be fun. But GA wouldn't argue with himself because he always agrees with himself. ;)

I want to see people accept that across the greater spectrum of playing War3, all of us spend just as much time posting on this site than we do actually playing. Addiction? Maybe, but either way we're posting rather than playing... and theorycraft no less. Thus, we aren't as good as we would like to be... if we played more, we would get better.

Actually, because I play Warcraft for the majority of my time on a computer, I definitely play more than I post. Although I do hang around talking to people a lot too. Theorycrafting is fun when you try out what you suggest, especially when it works. Hell, I've gotten 10 levels better in a year, and I directly attribute it to listening to what people say on this site, as well as Audio Commentaries.

Someone really needs to place a sticky guide at the top of this Forum that reads "Don't ask stupid questions about War3 until you read this thread". Inside that thread, we need an accepted, standard build order or orders for each race, standard strategies for each match-up of that race, and replay examples for each race showing the build order. Then, we don't have to ask people to go to WCReplays.com everytime someone new comes here to ask for help because they're new.

Well it would be nice, but you will always, no matter what, get people who ignore such threads and post such questions anyway. Remember the time when we had a "I can't host custom game and arranged team games" spree? We had to post the same things, or refer them to the Technology Annex, about ten times. You can't solve the problem when people ignore the solution.

We need not care about who supplies the replays for the previous comment. People, records are useful for one thing only - finding people on Bnet. That's it. It shouldn't lend to your credibility to the point that anyone bows down to your greatness and self-image. Realistically, if you're full of shit, you're still full of shit in spite of your record.

Heh, I liked that last sentence. Quite profound, I might quote you on it sometime. I agree in part, but records are still sometimes useful for judging someone's skill level. It's difficult to do, but if someone is Level 30 with 90 wins and someone else is Level 30 with 50 wins, you know who's going to be the better player 90% of the time. Not sure I understand the point anyway. :shiftyr:

Equally so, if your record sucks, it doesn't mean you don't know what you're talking about. Stop talking record when talking about the viability of tactics and strategy. Not only lacking in relevance, it also lacks in support for making an informed response to a posted concept.

Well yes, but sometimes people have to admit that they are actually wrong. What annoys me the most is not people who come up with the wrong ideas, but people who come up with the wrong ideas and won't accept they might be wrong, ie. Pigheaded new players. Record can be abused, so I don't ludge people by their % anyway. I judge people by their level, and if they haven't reached their ELL, then I can only judge them once I play them. I have played Cole, GA and fazant so I know they're better than me. Likewise, I know I'm better than some others. Not sure I understand that point either. :shiftyr:

When you have 5+ people telling you you're wrong, you probably need to reflect on your opinion and re-evaluate your position. Don't turn around a fling homosexual accusations and other such useless commentary like:

I think Anonymous is a prime culprit. I also think that *Name withheld for dignity reasons* is another prime culprit. Not sure if they're the same people. But anyway, yes. I agree.

Mods, if you're going to delete posts, at least be consistent. Commentary on the progress of a discussion in any forum is JUST AS RELEVANT as the discussion itself. Don't turn around then and comment on the humorous direction of the discussion when you've deleted other commentary.

I feel that mods are generally quite inactive in this forum. I'm not trying to cause offence, but it's true IMO. Other forums, such as SC and Lounge, have mods who will heavily moderate discussion of their own accord. Here, we generally have to nudge the mods before they close a thread. I get that general feeling - please, prove me wrong otherwise.

The above does not apply if the post is more inflamatory... but for some reason the distinction is made in such a queer manner, it's hard to decipher what you want from us. TELL US WHAT YOU WANT!!!
Warboards Rules! Just a few thoughts for you all to ponder, add to, or comment on.

Fair crack. I think WC in general is a much more competitive game than, say, D2 or SC. Especially in "Badmanneroth", (thanks to GA for that one,) I find a lot of people being... well, bad mannered. This kind of runs over into forums, because many people just can't seem to accept new players. This is what, for instance, puts my brother off playing WC. But yes, I agree with about half of what you said. Including that this thread needs to be closed.

:lock:

[cole]

I PMed mindslaver about our forums condition but he hasnt responded yet. I dont care when people insult me to be honest. Just id like the insults to be at least HALF ACCURATE..Not something like "omg u a gay homosexual power ranger that plays newbelf". The things that dont make sense to me is when people write essay posts just to prove their point to one person and make them feel like "na na na im right your wrong gg you".

The funny thing is the threads on here tend to fall into a few categories like Retarted insults or bullshit calculations on thoery crafting that hasnt even been applied or tested.

[GenocideAlive]

Actually, because I play Warcraft for the majority of my time on a computer, I definitely play more than I post. Although I do hang around talking to people a lot too. Theorycrafting is fun when you try out what you suggest, especially when it works. Hell, I've gotten 10 levels better in a year, and I directly attribute it to listening to what people say on this site, as well as Audio Commentaries.
I've been playing for a very long time. I often get insulted in regard to how much I play, including "mass games", "no-life loser", etc. I've been playing for much long than I'm posting. I found this point of Prozerran's to be extremely weak and pointless.
Heh, I liked that last sentence. Quite profound, I might quote you on it sometime. I agree in part, but records are still sometimes useful for judging someone's skill level.
It's a total strawman. Records and levels are used to find ELLs, ELLs are used to match players of roughly the same skill-level, QED records and levels mean something. The only reason that people insist that they don't mean anything is because they're fucking 45% @ L20 and they don't want to be belittled. While it may or may not be true, it certainly is a point in the favor of the person with the higher level; credibility is rightfully gained through such methods. Tough titty.
I feel that mods are generally quite inactive in this forum. I'm not trying to cause offence, but it's true IMO. Other forums, such as SC and Lounge, have mods who will heavily moderate discussion of their own accord. Here, we generally have to nudge the mods before they close a thread. I get that general feeling - please, prove me wrong otherwise.
They by in large don't have mods here that either know the game very well nor are particularly as interested as the posters. Thus a lot of things get ignored, a lot of things are permitted, and most is just let lie. I'd be interested in moderating, but only as a segue into WC.org--Warboards is cool and all, but I'm not as interested in chit-chat as I am the facts.

This provides a dandy segue into the "Guides" and other such "FAQ" type oriented stickies--I'm not really going to pour tons of time and effort into something that's going to be stuck on WB and forgotten. Not many people visit here, because it's generally not a WC site. WC.org is one of the few sites that would get enough traffic to merit the amount of time and work that would go into writing decent, presentable articles.
The funny thing is the threads on here tend to fall into a few categorie like Retarted insults or bullshit calculations on thoery crafting that hasnt even been applied or tested.
That's not you, right Cole? :rolleyes: You very rarely bother to write anything other than one-liners or belittling cracks about others' skillevel. Meanwhile, you post things like AT games in the replay section and talk about how awesome the play was but wonder aloud why nobody watches them.

[SpeedyWorm1]

I just have a question. Why report a thread if you don't like it? if you don't agree with the direction its going, just DONT READ IT. It gives the idiots who are throwing stupid insults aruond something to spend their time on.

[cole]

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That's not you, rght Cole? :rolleyes: You very rarely bother to write anything other than one-liners or belittling cracks about others' skillevel. Meanwhile, you post things like AT games in the replay section and talk about how awesome the play was but wonder aloud why nobody watches them.

Uh, you do realize that most of the reps in the replay thread have 1-2 views or 0? Hardly any have over 2. I dont talk about how awesome the play is, i talk about the players that i beat. I dont just post random replays from me beating some random newb in ladder. Why should i post more than a one liner when in most cases thats all thats needed to solve a question? Instead of a 3 hour essay post going over calculations and percents. The fact is theorycraft is just theorycraft unless tested and proved to work. You can argue about what counters roys best, gyros or rifles, but nobody really knows the answer to that unless theyve tested both using more than one trial and different situations each time. Its like i said before, unit counters dont always work if other factors in the game interfere like expos,upgrades, and such.

[Mindslaver]

Here's what I'd like to see in the Town Hall. Those of you being called on, don't take offense... just find some of these things are what I appreciate when I come here to read/post.
People, stop saying "this thread will probably be closed" or some other retarded nonsense. Mod's don't need to see random statements like this to close a thread, and you never know when a thread may turn around.
I want to see GenocideAlive argue with himself. Imagine an argument of rebuttals... and I'm not pointing this out negatively. It's the most entertaining phenomenon on this site. Not to mention informative.
I want to see people accept that across the greater spectrum of playing War3, all of us spend just as much time posting on this site than we do actually playing. Addiction? Maybe, but either way we're posting rather than playing... and theorycraft no less. Thus, we aren't as good as we would like to be... if we played more, we would get better.
Someone really needs to place a sticky guide at the top of this Forum that reads "Don't ask stupid questions about War3 until you read this thread". Inside that thread, we need an accepted, standard build order or orders for each race, standard strategies for each match-up of that race, and replay examples for each race showing the build order. Then, we don't have to ask people to go to WCReplays.com everytime someone new comes here to ask for help because they're new.
We need not care about who supplies the replays for the previous comment.
People, records are useful for one thing only - finding people on Bnet. That's it. It shouldn't lend to your credibility to the point that anyone bows down to your greatness and self-image. Realistically, if you're full of shit, you're still full of shit in spite of your record.
Equally so, if your record sucks, it doesn't mean you don't know what you're talking about. Stop talking record when talking about the viability of tactics and strategy. Not only lacking in relevance, it also lacks in support for making an informed response to a posted concept.
When you have 5+ people telling you you're wrong, you probably need to reflect on your opinion and re-evaluate your position. Don't turn around a fling homosexual accusations and other such useless commentary like:...
Mods, if you're going to delete posts, at least be consistent. Commentary on the progress of a discussion in any forum is JUST AS RELEVANT as the discussion itself. Don't turn around then and comment on the humorous direction of the discussion when you've deleted other commentary.
The above does not apply if the post is more inflamatory... but for some reason the distinction is made in such a queer manner, it's hard to decipher what you want from us. TELL US WHAT YOU WANT!!!Warboards Rules! Just a few thoughts for you all to ponder, add to, or comment on.
Agreed. Threads that degenerate into spam are generally left open a short while past the breaking point, so posting about closing the thread is not helpful. If you truly believe that a post deserves to be eradicated, use the Report function. If you think a thread is degenerate, try to bring it back on track rather than add to the problem.
No comment.
No comment.
This sounds like a good idea, but strategy vault threads have not been successful in the past. Generally, it is best to deal with such questions as they come, rather than try to have a strategy sticky. The sticky thread will rapidly stagnate, as it has in several past endeavors to accomplish the same thing.
No comment.
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This pertains to the first point - members, please do not add to the problem by posting useless comments. I'm not saying you do this, but try to avoid it.
The deletion of posts is generally reserved for inflammatory or otherwise ignorant remarks, or things that blatantly violate the rules.
All that the staff asks is for you to think twice before you hit the 'Submit Reply' button. Some posts are clearly in violation of the rules; others are merely useless. There are very few useless posts (these are generally the 2 word posts), but inflammatory posts abound. Arguments are okay, as long as they do not turn into spam.This thread will not be closed, because it is pertinent. I hope that this thread fosters intelligent discussion, and that we can improve the community.

[Ender]

I agree with Mindslaver on all counts. First off, we trust our members greatly, and I want to honestly compliment the Warcraft Town Hall posters. This is one of the better areas of the site as far as behavior and such, which is probably why you don't see as many deleted posts and such things. It has a smaller active population than Member's Lounge as well.

By the way, if a post offends you in some manner, here's what you do. Not only is this the proper, mature response, but it also helps us moderators due our jobs. Try reporting the post instead of counterflaming. That helps us out and guarantees the problem will be dealt with quicker, because not all mods have the time to go through every single thread in every single forum EVERY time they log on. If you report the problem, however, we'll know immediately. Report post is your friend.

[Lordshadowbane]

Record has uses. For example you can tell what type of player this person generally plays (AT/RT/Solo/FFA). If you see a rec w/ 60% and over 200 games, that means something (unless they mass RT's/abuse).

Overall, records give an idea to the person, for example you can tell if they suck and if they're okay or better. The only problems are when you see people w/ over 60% due to loss abusing/RT's/disc hack. (Of course you can solve this by full games listing it just really sucks when they have over 500 games).

Oh and level rarely means anything IMO.

[Prozerran]

Well, we're just trying to point the mods in the right direction. Many of the more regular posters know when a thread is dead and ask for it to be closed. I had to PM a mod once to get a thread closed, because it had degenerated into childlike insults.

Naw.. recently I've noticed several people post that a thread should close soon, but there are more than enough people posting and furthering the thread. I haven't had to PM a Mod in quite some time.. at least a week or more I think.

That might be fun. But GA wouldn't argue with himself because he always agrees with himself. ;)

Agreed. But the operative word is not fun. It's Funny. Say it with me... F.U.N.N.Y. Funny. Funny.

Actually, because I play Warcraft for the majority of my time on a computer, I definitely play more than I post. Although I do hang around talking to people a lot too. Theorycrafting is fun when you try out what you suggest, especially when it works. Hell, I've gotten 10 levels better in a year, and I directly attribute it to listening to what people say on this site, as well as Audio Commentaries.

There comes a point when Theorycrafting goes beyond practical gaming. For people who have played longer, it seems to me to be nothing more than giving back to the community. Sure, you may take some pride in your knowledge, but in the end, playing determines the skill more than theorizing the strategy. Let us not confuse the two.

Well it would be nice, but you will always, no matter what, get people who ignore such threads and post such questions anyway. Remember the time when we had a "I can't host custom game and arranged team games" spree? We had to post the same things, or refer them to the Technology Annex, about ten times. You can't solve the problem when people ignore the solution.

I highly doubt anyone is going to miss "Before you make an Ass of yourself in this Forum, Please Read!" If they do, we can simply Tar and Feather them. Heh. Yeah, we could have a Mod tar and feather someone they know and take a photo. Then each time someone shows up with a dumb question, the Mod can simply replace the Avatar with "You're Tarred and Feathered! Ha! HaHa!"

Heh, I liked that last sentence. Quite profound, I might quote you on it sometime. I agree in part, but records are still sometimes useful for judging someone's skill level. It's difficult to do, but if someone is Level 30 with 90 wins and someone else is Level 30 with 50 wins, you know who's going to be the better player 90% of the time. Not sure I understand the point anyway. :shiftyr:

You can quote me. I'm not attempting to underrate someone's record. The I said so's, no matter whether they're right or wrong, lend nothing to the argument, just another Ad Hominem for people to bitch back and forth to one another about for 80 days before actually coming full circle and supporting their position with raw evidence in game. Yeah, this needed to be said.

Well yes, but sometimes people have to admit that they are actually wrong. What annoys me the most is not people who come up with the wrong ideas, but people who come up with the wrong ideas and won't accept they might be wrong, ie. Pigheaded new players. Record can be abused, so I don't ludge people by their % anyway. I judge people by their level, and if they haven't reached their ELL, then I can only judge them once I play them. I have played Cole, GA and fazant so I know they're better than me. Likewise, I know I'm better than some others. Not sure I understand that point either. :shiftyr:

Hence, why I stated that if you're being pwned in a thread, go back and check your information before turning around slinging insults of people's records and sexual preference. How off topic does it have to get before you shut up and learn something?!?! Revelade, would you care to comment here?

I think Anonymous is a prime culprit. I also think that *Name withheld for dignity reasons* is another prime culprit. Not sure if they're the same people. But anyway, yes. I agree.

Good. Then I won't have to kill you. :)

I feel that mods are generally quite inactive in this forum. I'm not trying to cause offence, but it's true IMO. Other forums, such as SC and Lounge, have mods who will heavily moderate discussion of their own accord. Here, we generally have to nudge the mods before they close a thread. I get that general feeling - please, prove me wrong otherwise.

I believe Cole1 might be able to elaborate on this one, at least in the "Playing Human Thread" when he commented on the status of the thread after Basan commented on the humor of the thread. While Basan's remark remained (and I have no quibble with that), Cole1's was deleted as spam. I don't agree with that.

Fair crack. I think WC in general is a much more competitive game than, say, D2 or SC. Especially in "Badmanneroth", (thanks to GA for that one,) I find a lot of people being... well, bad mannered. This kind of runs over into forums, because many people just can't seem to accept new players. This is what, for instance, puts my brother off playing WC. But yes, I agree with about half of what you said. Including that this thread needs to be closed.

:lock:

Kind of getting tired of typing out your name. You are now 'R' from this point on... uh, where was I? Oh, yeah, uhh... you say lock this thread. Refer to point number 1. Consider yourself Tarred and Feathered, R.

[GenocideAlive]

Has anyone else seen the little cartoon of the sheepdog standing watch by the sheep, and all the sheep have thought balloons about what the dog should be doing? A lot of times around here, it's like that.

2 people say something should be locked, 2 people say something should be dropped, 2 people say something should be forced back on track, 2 people say posts should be deleted, 2 people say that 2 other people are doing nothing but flaming, 2 others say that their flames are justified and / or different, and 2 people actually carry on the substance (for better or worse) of the conversation.

Time to STFU about all the damned moderating and PARTICIPATE. I get so tired of people trying to act as though they're "above" some conversation when they were just arguing balls-to-the-wall rude in another one. Either admit you're flawed like everybody else and live with the conditions, or just zip it.

You only make yourself look like a little controlling weenie by trying to act as though you're the only person within 300 miles that has any self-control or "proper" perspective. PM a mod or report the post. Simple as that.

[GroG]

my only comment on this whole thing--

skill can't be measured by level, win %, etc etc etc-- of course, obviously. Yet, ladder IS the best indicator, and of course is the BEST way to improve your game. I highly recommend just sticking with 1 account and playing a bunch of games instead of smurfing, because you eventually do start playing people your level, and beating them really does improve your game 10 fold.

But not to be hypocritical with what i just said, but skill levels are always fluctuating, and I don't believe you ever just "level off" and become 50%.

I played BW for several years, yet I didn't get any good until I played a bunch of games on PGTour- and lost a bunch. Yet I kept losing and playing, and "massing games" is and always will be the best way to get good.

well anyways, that's my 2 cents on that

[Yoda]

My only comment is how people always seem to have an argument over who is the better player, when it started from two people have a theory-argument. My record is not the best, partially because its decayed since I barely have any time because of school and that I wasn't brilliant to start off with. And I am certainly not the "best" player on here, but I won't go so far as to say I'm the "worst." Even if I was the worst, it doesn't remove my right to give advice or suggest things or comment on replays to someone "better" than me.

And some comments, made by one unnamed particular person, always seem to want an off-topic argument made from them, especially in the other sections of this message board.

Proz, your quoting is pretty funny how you reduce R's name each time :)

[RedRagToAnOrc]

Proz, your quoting is pretty funny how you reduce R's name each time :)

Perhaps I should change my name to R. ;)

Fair enough, and I think that GA's point is relevant as well, about people doing different things in the same thread. But what are you going to do about it? People will do whatever they want as long as it doesn't get them banned or their post deleted.

[cole]

Records dont mean shit though. DDs rec isnt to great right now but he can defiantly hold his own in a solo game.

[Basan]

2. I want to see GenocideAlive argue with himself. Imagine an argument of rebuttals... and I'm not pointing this out negatively. It's the most entertaining phenomenon on this site. Not to mention informative.

That would only work if he had a dual personality (schizophrenia or similar), which to the moment being haven't noticed such behaviours. :)
*Rolls eyes and imagines the hooting riot* Yep, it would be funny as Hell.

I believe Cole1 might be able to elaborate on this one, at least in the "Playing Human Thread" when he commented on the status of the thread after Basan commented on the humor of the thread. While Basan's remark remained (and I have no quibble with that), Cole1's was deleted as spam. I don't agree with that.

That also amazed me, to be honest. :shiftyl:

Also I saw a few remarks on heavilly moderating the SC area vs. here and that just might happen due to the increased number of teens that play SC-BW while in here we are in general older (therefore also more mature or so I'd like to think :P) than over there.
I just found out that over there it would be more efficient to deal with problematic situations if I pressed the 'joy' button (http://img.orgnetwork.com/wb/buttons/report.gif) than everything else, as the mods already stated here. Perhaps we could test try it here more often as well, although to be quite frank ain't that fond of using it myself. :concern:

[cole]

Oh and also i just saw proz comment and yea he speaks the truth TT. Theres different kinds of "spam". But i was posting about what i thought the thread turned into and my post gets deleted :/. Yea pages and pages of worthless flames remain. Like i said, this forum needs 2-3 active mods.

[wa123]

[quote=Prozerran]Here's what I'd like to see in the Town Hall. Those of you being called on, don't take offense... just find some of these things are what I appreciate when I come here to read/post.

People, stop saying "this thread will probably be closed" or some other retarded nonsense. Mod's don't need to see random statements like this to close a thread, and you never know when a thread may turn around.1. agree

I want to see GenocideAlive argue with himself. Imagine an argument of rebuttals... and I'm not pointing this out negatively. It's the most entertaining phenomenon on this site. Not to mention informative.2.well he was kinda entertaining and informative

I want to see people accept that across the greater spectrum of playing War3, all of us spend just as much time posting on this site than we do actually playing. Addiction? Maybe, but either way we're posting rather than playing... and theorycraft no less. Thus, we aren't as good as we would like to be... if we played more, we would get better.3.whichever way everyone is doing, this is a warcraft discussion board, let the discussion flow

Someone really needs to place a sticky guide at the top of this Forum that reads "Don't ask stupid questions about War3 until you read this thread". Inside that thread, we need an accepted, standard build order or orders for each race, standard strategies for each match-up of that race, and replay examples for each race showing the build order. Then, we don't have to ask people to go to WCReplays.com everytime someone new comes here to ask for help because they're new.4.u got to consider not everyone here is at a same level, I bet u had your time exploring the best building order, if u feel the question is stupid and dont want to answer it, simply ignore it. But if u can spend a few mins to share out your warcraft experience, that person may b greatly appreciated, and could benefit others.

We need not care about who supplies the replays for the previous comment.5.Have you ever downloaded a replay that was produced by 2 noob that not even know what to build? I did.

People, records are useful for one thing only - finding people on Bnet. That's it. It shouldn't lend to your credibility to the point that anyone bows down to your greatness and self-image. Realistically, if you're full of shit, you're still full of shit in spite of your record.6.haha...sounds good

Equally so, if your record sucks, it doesn't mean you don't know what you're talking about. Stop talking record when talking about the viability of tactics and strategy. Not only lacking in relevance, it also lacks in support for making an informed response to a posted concept.7. agree, if u can listen to what the other person is trying to say, u will see a point they are trying to argue, may b some of the point sound rediculas to u, but isnt' everyone here making a discussion base on they experiences played in warcraft? somethine doesn't work well for u, might work great to that person, never know.

When you have 5+ people telling you you're wrong, you probably need to reflect on your opinion and re-evaluate your position. Don't turn around a fling homosexual accusations and other such useless commentary like:8. if more than 5 ppl telling u r wrong..then I guess it is wrong then.

Mods, if you're going to delete posts, at least be consistent. Commentary on the progress of a discussion in any forum is JUST AS RELEVANT as the discussion itself. Don't turn around then and comment on the humorous direction of the discussion when you've deleted other commentary.9.AJ need to recru more townhall Mods that knows about warcraft.

The above does not apply if the post is more inflamatory... but for some reason the distinction is made in such a queer manner, it's hard to decipher what you want from us. TELL US WHAT YOU WANT!!!10.no comment

[Basan]

... But i was posting about what i thought the thread turned into and my post gets deleted :/. Yea pages and pages of worthless flames remain. Like i said, this forum needs 2-3 active mods.

Mod's are human also. He prob'ly made a mistake and it isn't n' wasn't that a big ordeal anyway.
I already got banned for a hissy fit here, imho, and from both which do you think it's worse? (Don't get me to elaborate further down that path and look for yourselves if interested. :P)

And no, I don't think it needs a couple specific mod's. Report it! It's as that simple.
I recall to see Ender's articles about WC3 or related on almost every DotOrg Mag' edition (http://www.warboards.org/dotorg/), so he must keep an eye for events here, no? And also to have seen MindSlaver 'lurking' almost every day I popped onto these sections (and even traded a few PM's with him), therefore they are active but what we all seem to be forgetting is that we have lifes of our own and modship is as payed as much as I am for just being here, plus with the extra effort they have to make just to keep things running smoothly. Just don't forget that other mods do show off here occasionally as well, even more if we report stuff up when topics derail/degrade quality.
Give credit we're it's due and we almost haven't add any major trouble here recently a part from that ("Playing Hu") thread's flow, which I believe was a stubborness/attitude result more than anything else. *Feels BF's 'taint' leaving the air* :angel:

AJ need to recru more townhall Mods that knows about warcraft.

I know that using the quotes' text code isn't mandatory or anything near that stage of compliance, but when replying please check if you've closed all tags right please. ;)
Gladly the messed up indent coding helped me out to sort which was yours and his.

It's not our site, although we like to 'crash' around here, so try to be on the level and don't tell others what to do with their own property. I know I wouldn't. <_<
Rest assure that if they feel that they need an extra pair of hands' push, they'll get it. :)

[cole]

Honestly theres 3-4 people on here that can really say they know the game well. Maybe less. As for ender being in charge of the events here...What events are you reffering too? Sorry but your post is kind of meaningless and didnt give a single good answer to any of my comments.

[Yoda]

I want to see people accept that across the greater spectrum of playing War3, all of us spend just as much time posting on this site than we do actually playing. Addiction? Maybe, but either way we're posting rather than playing... and theorycraft no less. Thus, we aren't as good as we would like to be... if we played more, we would get better.Warboards Rules! Just a few thoughts for you all to ponder, add to, or comment on.
Ok. Yes this thread has been neglected for a while but I should answer this. Due to school, I can only play Warcraft 3 about 2 games a week at most. Once on Friday nights and once on Saturday nights. That is why my account has (annoyingly) decayed so much. However I can spend much more time on this message board.

[Ender]

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