Ironic isnt it?

[Subjukator]

That all these people who talk about putting a limit on games or on how many games a person can join are not participating for whatever reason.

And how it seems that every GM in a game here are missing deadlines. (No matter the circumstance unless you get like cancer or was kidnapped)

Deadlines that YOU GameMaster's made should be met at the very least. GMing a game is a responsbility, no matter how menial or unrewarding it may seem. You the GM took it upon yourself to make that game possible and you should also keep up with it as well. Make time to GM during your busy schedule or else something akin to what is happening now might soon become a permament thing.

[Whiteknight]

I don't want to see diplo go the way it did in BF. I think this is a good time to suggest more limit. If you are in a game as a GM, you shouldn't be in any other games, maybe one. If you are not a GM, you should be in max 3 games. This is so that the GM's will have enough time to make maps and focus on their threads, while the players can focus on the threads they are playing.

Lower the limit to 3, and if you are a GM, make that count as 2.

EDIT: You know, maybe we should start with a clean slate, once we would get the rules down. Then people could submit their threads to the ...leader I guess of the thread, who would put them down in order. Once one filled up, then he would allow the second thread. People in the first game could only join that if not enough people who are not in a game show up. Same for game number 3, etc. If there are not enough people to show up, people in another game may sign up, and the leader would not allow any more games.

Anyways, that's what I think. There would be more focus on one thread, and Diplo will continue to be maintained.

[OboeGuru]

I honestly think that things started to decline rapidly once we got a subforum. :/
And I think Shini leaving was a turning point too, along with Werewolf dropping out of his games.

Everybody just needs to buckle down and remember that they are dedicated to whatever game(s) they join and have an obligation to keep turning in orders on time, so that the other players don't get annoyed/discouraged and start being equally, if not more, lackadaisy. The Domino Effect.

Step up, y'allz. :)

[Subjukator]

I honestly think that things started to decline rapidly once we got a subforum. :/

YES! YES! YES! That is exactly what I have been saying FOREVER!!

But I also agree with what you said about dedication as well although, what can we do to slackers? Nothing bascially save of leaving the game...

If you are in a game as a GM, you shouldn't be in any other games, maybe one. If you are not a GM, you should be in max 3 games. This is so that the GM's will have enough time to make maps and focus on their threads, while the players can focus on the threads they are playing.

WhiteKnight, what you have mentioned is not the problem at all. If you haven't noticed, it is not a problem with people submitting there orders due to how many games they are in, besides the usual idiots in any diplo forum. The limit was set so that the same diplo players would not monopolize the games allowing no other new people to diplomacy to join.

The real issue is with slackers or with people who put their Diplomacy games at the bottom of their priorities, whatever the hell those may be...

What OboeGuru said I all agree.

[Modred]

My game is running on time, and I have submitted orders for my others.

Don't preach to the chior.

EDIT: This was directed to WK, but Sub somehow slipped a post in. lol

[Subjukator]

My game is running on time, and I have submitted orders for my others.

Don't preach to the chior.

EDIT: This was directed to WK, but Sub somehow slipped a post in. lol

O, OK. Thx cause I was about to thread-link to some games with GM's that don't GM on time due to whatever.

[Cygnus]

"It's ironic isn't it?"

Certainly is. When players complain about games not getting put up, how it's ruining Diplo here... but in my damn game barely anyone got their orders in!

What do you want me to do? Move one nations pieces? I don't think so. Players can also ruin the games as well.

I completely understand the situations where it might be the GM's fault, but sometimes you have to cut us some slack.

[OboeGuru]

I completely understand the situations where it might be the GM's fault, but sometimes you have to cut us some slack.
My sentiments exactly. ^.^

I got my orders in in your game Cyg! :) :bigsmile:

[TheGreatBrain]

I think the solution to keep diplo pumping is to, as some have said, lose the subforum. When Diplomacy is in a subforum, it's hard to get new players. It makes it seem like it's an exclusive club, and noone will bother trying to get into it. Just out there in the Roleplaying forum, it will make it seem like anyone can join. I really think we should make a serious request to have the subforum taken away.

[OboeGuru]

And especially with the limit on active games in place, it's IMPOSSIBLE for the the RP forum to be overrun with Diplo games, which was the reasoning for the subforum in the first place, as was my understanding.
It makes it seem like it's an exclusive club, and noone will bother trying to get into it. Just out there in the Roleplaying forum, it will make it seem like anyone can join.
I couldn't have said it any better, TGB.

[BlackHawk]

No, do not take away the Sub-forum and pump them into the RPG forum, the Diplo games will just be tossed back to page 2, and they will interfere with the actual RP threads, it's way easier to have a Diplo subforum where everything's more tidy and organized.

[OboeGuru]

the Diplo games will just be tossed back to page 2, and they will interfere with the actual RP threads
Not if they're actually seen by the players by being in the main forum.

Sorry, but I don't see how they can "interfere" with other RPs... :\

[Modred]

I personally think it is better to have no subforum. At BF, there were close to 100 diplo games, if not more, at the time the subforum was created (I believe there were over 150 when diplo started dying...only 20-30 of so which were completed...all before my time). This required another forum because the diplo games truly overran the RPs.

However, here we have relatively few diplo games here, and the sub-forum is relatively activeless since very few new threads are formed. Therefore, we should not have a sub-forum.

[Subjukator]

We should also not create a separate diplomacy forum as well. When I first when into the RPG forum at BF, I didn't even enter the diplomacy forum until it was well into its "boom" period. Thereafter when my interest was piqued, I didn't revisit it until the forum was turning downslope and there were no new games being made.

Not having a separate forum for diplomacy will attract newcomers. (and lets not call them "fresh blood" plz ok?)

^^ posted 4/03/04

No seemed to want to listen to me.

[TheGreatBrain]

At the very least, I think we should have some kind of thread advertising and explaining Diplomacy in the regular RP forum.

[Whiteknight]

Damn, Brain beat me to it. I was going to suggest that there be a sticky in the RP forum that would advertise a game -Diplo- which would explain it somewhat, then direct them to the subforum.

[AJ]

I want you to decide as a group what you'd like to do about this forum.
I'd also like to note that I don't recall any of you bringing any of your problems concerning this issue to me, so as such.. I have to question just what/how you planning on handling this. :p

[BlackHawk]

I think the sticky in the reg RP forum is a good idea, and for now should do fine. We'll just have to see how it goes in the long run...

And that's my opinion...*waits for the other*

Woah, I just realized we have been visited by AJ...[hippi voice] deep [/hippi voice]....

[Whiteknight]

Wow... I have seen AJ and it is god. :D Forget where I heard that...

Later on, if it's just us over and over again, we should drop the subforum. It also kept me from playing them. It was a while before I went into any subforums.

[Subjukator]

I suggest having one diplo game with a reliable GM and players in the Online-Roleplaying Forum with a sticky concerning Diplo as a sort of promotional thing for Diplomacy also in there.