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Hi all, I have come on Town Hall after many months,
Do you guys know best DotA strategies about Mid-Rush and Assasinations?
Which heroes are best if you wish to solo on one path?
I know that Lich and Sniper are best if you wish to Solo on Mid, What about Mortred? How to use him?
And are here some guys who know how to use TINY?
I often find that Enigma is better, Is there a way to stop him if he rushes in from Top? I can't do anything when my friends rush in by Enigma from the Top and uses the Decay like ability talking out Towers....
RedRagToAnOrc
03-03-2006, 10:38 AM
Hi all, I have come on Town Hall after many months,
Do you guys know best DotA strategies about Mid-Rush and Assasinations?
Which heroes are best if you wish to solo on one path?
I know that Lich and Sniper are best if you wish to Solo on Mid, What about Mortred? How to use him?
And are here some guys who know how to use TINY?
I often find that Enigma is better, Is there a way to stop him if he rushes in from Top? I can't do anything when my friends rush in by Enigma from the Top and uses the Decay like ability talking out Towers....
To be honest, I don't know where DotA discussions go, because they're strategy related, but are not to do with Bnet games.
Solo mid is generally accepted as suicidal. 95% of people taking solo will go either left or right lanes, it's just what is 'done', per se. I'm afraid I can't give you any tips as to how to use Tiny as I am a Silencer player, but I can say that Silencer is a pretty good soloer IMO.
Basically, I just go Buckler/Headdress and use Curse as often as possible once I level it up to 3 or 4, spamming armour increase and turning back opponents as often as possible. Good teams will indicate when heroes are going to gank you, so you don't really need to worry about that. Later on, you should be heavily levelled, so you go Midas to help with pushing, Mekansm for team ganks and then Necronomicon to take out any pesky INT heroes.
Well, you are right... But I found that If one takes Lich and stays by the tower on mid, tilll getting lvl3 Nova then Chain Frost, It can simply take out everything and can be excellent solo on mid. I myself a Lich player found out that this tactic is better than what Sniper's Headshot and Assasinate combo. Once getting Nova at Spamming lvl then using Chain Frost to nuke enemy, This results in stopping enemy advance in Mid greatly.
Silencer is great if used with Sand King in AllPick mode, Since the Global Silence makes the Sand King's ultimate almost unstoppable. Get the Burrow Strike to stun and then hit Global Silince, and press the Sand King's ultimate.... Almost none can stop you... Since silencer has almost no trouble in casting Global Silence while Soloing in the top and Sand King rushes in at mid. Even if someone stops the Sand King, he can always burrow and run away...
One of my friends is great Tiny player and generally advances in soloing at Top. he never goes to attack actually, almost never... Even though having high atack damage. If Tiny can get Gloves and Dagger of Escape, then he becomes really a nasty opponent.
Wat u think RegRag?
RedRagToAnOrc
03-04-2006, 6:37 AM
Well, you are right... But I found that If one takes Lich and stays by the tower on mid, tilll getting lvl3 Nova then Chain Frost, It can simply take out everything and can be excellent solo on mid. I myself a Lich player found out that this tactic is better than what Sniper's Headshot and Assasinate combo. Once getting Nova at Spamming lvl then using Chain Frost to nuke enemy, This results in stopping enemy advance in Mid greatly.
Silencer is great if used with Sand King in AllPick mode, Since the Global Silence makes the Sand King's ultimate almost unstoppable. Get the Burrow Strike to stun and then hit Global Silince, and press the Sand King's ultimate.... Almost none can stop you... Since silencer has almost no trouble in casting Global Silence while Soloing in the top and Sand King rushes in at mid. Even if someone stops the Sand King, he can always burrow and run away...
One of my friends is great Tiny player and generally advances in soloing at Top. he never goes to attack actually, almost never... Even though having high atack damage. If Tiny can get Gloves and Dagger of Escape, then he becomes really a nasty opponent.
Wat u think RegRag?
I still say that soloing mid is wrong. You'll almost be guaranteed a 1v2 fight for much of the opening, and considering that the middle lane is the most important, losing a tower or two early on, (which may well happen, especially if you are facing good tower pushers,) is not a good idea. Nova and Chain Frost works just as well in another lane.
And about that Silencer/SK trick, people will just get Bashers and/or Kelen's, so that they can jump away from the SK or stun him using their attacks instead of spells. Assuming two or three heroes focus him, it won't be long before that ulti gets stopped.
Hyperstone is a far better Tiny item used in conjunction with Grow. Your friend is a passive melee hero player. I'd say 60-70% of good players I encounter are passive when they get melee heroes, because actually attacking creeps early on and attempting to farm just gets you hurt badly by any ranged heroes that happen to be there, not least the creeps. You're much better off last-hit-microing various creeps and then waiting until you're strong enough (ie. have Hyperstone) to stun and gank.
And my name is RedRag, not RegRag. :)
No... Soloing on Mid is dangerous.. but cannot be considered as sucide... The int heroes give great performance on mid due to faster Xp gain and improvising their skills to considerable extent.
Only yeaterday I won a DotA 4v4 game taking Tiny... I went Avelanche and Craggy Exteriors, on top lane... Where two enemies had SK and Lich. I pushed them beyond 2 towers without even getting my lane's single tower down... The Tiny is great! Specially get boots of travel and Yasha.. along with Hyperstone and Sacred Relic, Don't forget to keep hand of Midas! When normally concentrate on getting Grow along with checking that you should at least have movement about 400.. My movement was 410 and it gave me great advantage...
I normally think that lvl3 Grow is not worth it... It makes tiny easy target and large collosion that creates probs... Get another items from LVL4 shoppie and u don't even need to get grow... You can improvise toss and get better hold off...
Ooops i mispelled u as RegRag.. Right? Sorry
Well RedRag.. . At least teach me using silencer as solo on top lane.. I suck with him....
RedRagToAnOrc
03-05-2006, 3:47 AM
Well RedRag.. . At least teach me using silencer as solo on top lane.. I suck with him....
This I can do. The basics with Silencer are as follows;
Skill Build -- Curse/Stats/Curse/Stats/Curse/Ulti/Curse/Stats/Stats/Stats/Ulti and then Max Glaives, Stats and Last Word.
Item Build -- Chicken and Two Ironwood Branches at Start. If you're getting hurt badly, get Ring of Regen next, otherwise get Chainmail. Complete with varying recipes to get Buckler and Headdress. Push while spamming Buckler and Curse. Then get Midas and spam that, too. Get Mekansm recipe then go for Necronomicon to take out any INT heroes. Linken's next and then whatever you need.
Curse early game on heroes with high-mana spells or many passive abilities - fantastic ones to spam Curse on are N'aix, Sniper and Leoric. Never spam Curse on any hero which has an autocast ability such as Aiustha, Drow or Clinkx. Make sure Curse is levelled to 3/4 before you start using it.
Spam Buckler and push your lane solo, using Curse to turn back heroes and Regen Aura to make creep denying and harrassing easier. Midas will allow you to resource gather more efficiently, but you should be doing decently anyway.
Once you get Necronomicon and Mekansm you should be at Levels 12-16. Heal allies whenever necessary and spam Necro summons, Mana Burning repeatedly any hero that is giving you bother. Upgrade Nec to the max so that the MB takes off 300, then go for Linken's to make the Silencer (combined with Last Word and Global Silence) almost spell immune for a good 10 seconds.
Shouls i go Cure/Stats or Curse/Glaive ? Anyway.. I tried that out... It's great ! Thx....
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