Best Way to Level?

[Sikawtic]

I'm level 25 atm, and have mostly quested to level to this point. I want to know what everyone's opinion is, I know kong is fond of questing, but I also know people think questing has it's limits.

What IS the best way to level?

[kongurous]

I'm questing/doing instances right now on Beastslayer. That works well enough for me. Continue to do quests, dude, I'm serious. You get money, experience, and some nice, reward-only equipment. At 25, I was questing in either Ashenvale or Wetlands. I don't remember too well.

[Geno]

Questing is good, as is grinding. Either can offer huge benefits. But here's my opinion:

Questing is the best thing to do, so long as it doesn't hinder the grind. Darkshire is one of the BEST examples. To quest in Darkshire, you have to run clear across the way a good five minutes, just to deliver a message, then back again... That is long, boring, tiresome, and killing mobs is near pointless unless you picked up a quest.

But at the same time, if you have those quests? Just run through the middle. If you see a mob you need? Kill it, and keep moving. Looting and go is one of the fastest ways to get your exp and quests at once. Killing quests are most definately some of the best, as many of them offer equipment, as well as give exp, in addition to any drops you got!

If Grinding solo isn't your thing, though, find an instance just in your level range. Right now, I take Teeny through Stockades once or twice a night, and get about 5 bubbles a run. I don't know about you, but getting 5 bubbles in an hour isn't bad when you have a chance at some nice greens, or possible blues!

But if you say questing along with friends is good, head to a populated area. Usually (On Cenarius, anyway), I see more questing done in Darkshire than Ashenvale, and as such, it keeps flowing better there, so when you need help, you can get it. On other servers, Ashenvale is defiantely a better place to be. You just have to know which way to go, depending on your side.

Soon enough, I'll move her into the Shimmering Flats and Stonetalon mountains, just to snag quests I need there. Most of them are tedius (Finding a certain mob), but they also queue me up for later quests, like Gahz'Rilla, as well as some easy to do "Find this thing" quests.

Instances aren't known for big grinds (*coughcoughGnomergancough*), but even so, you can MAKE them a grind if you find a party. I've done Gnomergan in four hours... And I've done it in two. Which run got me more exp? The two hour one, sadly. Why? The party clicked. No deaths (Imabug, at the time, was Feral), and we had good players. We even opted to run again, getting to the clean zone to turn in a quest. But we didn't just run there. We reset the instance, giving us a few more mobs to kill. Finding a good party is hard, but when you do, stick with it. It doesn't matter if the exp is low, but if it comes fast, that's better (in my eyes. 'Sides, if you have a good party, you usually have fun, right?).

Gotta find your own thing, I guess. Not saying questing or grinding is better. But I will say that a combination of the two is very much needed in the game!

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

[Incantrix]

I pretty much agree with Geno. Though sometimes (particularly at higher lvls when it matters more) the group can suck and not click and turn out to be a really slow and boring run, where you die too much, other times it works out really well. When a group clicks you can often run through an instance in half the time it would take an average group. Moreover, when the group clicks, you have a ton of fun, and lose track of how much time you're spending, and suddenly you've gained a lvl, and even though it didn't take much shorter than questing or grinding, it felt like it did.

There is one downside to doing a lot of instances, though. There are only so many one can do at any lvl, and eventually you can get tired of them. I used to have a lot of fun doing Scarlet Monestary, but now I'm utterly bored by it. I know it too well, and it's really hard, even though I know how to win. I did it something like 10-15 times with my main mage to get a bunch of good blue items, and now it doesn't feel much fun.

It's a tradeoff.

[Geno]

I pretty much agree with Geno. Though sometimes (particularly at higher lvls when it matters more) the group can suck and not click and turn out to be a really slow and boring run, where you die too much, other times it works out really well. When a group clicks you can often run through an instance in half the time it would take an average group. Moreover, when the group clicks, you have a ton of fun, and lose track of how much time you're spending, and suddenly you've gained a lvl, and even though it didn't take much shorter than questing or grinding, it felt like it did.

There is one downside to doing a lot of instances, though. There are only so many one can do at any lvl, and eventually you can get tired of them. I used to have a lot of fun doing Scarlet Monestary, but now I'm utterly bored by it. I know it too well, and it's really hard, even though I know how to win. I did it something like 10-15 times with my main mage to get a bunch of good blue items, and now it doesn't feel much fun.

It's a tradeoff.

On that SM topic: Yes, I agree, some instances can get very boring (Gnomergan comes to mind, for how stupid many groups are there... It's the first 'hard' instance you'll have, and one of the first where you really need to play your class. Hell, DM, you can have a Rogue tank for all you care. But in Gnomer? Warrior or Paladin is almost needed), but at the same time, others can almost hardly ever get boring (To me, SM. Different groups can move at different paces, but still, it's the challenge of it. I've done it with Four Druids and a Mage before, as well as a Druid / Warrior / Warlock / Pally / Hunter before. Both groups cleared it in different ways).

You just need to find what works and what you enjoy. If it gets boring, find a way to spruce it up ;)

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

P.S. AH = bad for first toon. Ignore the AH at all costs, until you get past level 40 and have your first mount. Until then, that is the devil's spawn.

[Sikawtic]

Geno:

I love the AH, it's made me filthy rich lol. (well... i think so). You can sell worthless blues (i had a 33ac int+9 req. 20 cloth shoulder armor, and sold it for 50g), and sell my herbs on there and make a killing. I use a small portion of that money to upgrade my armors every couple levels, and still have tons to spare.

<3 AH

[Incantrix]

I think Geno meant, don't EVER buy anything from the AH while you're low lvl, like before you get your mount, which is pretty sensible advice from my PoV.

[xodkrm]

Im a newb, so I just quest, and rarely, i do instances
(RFC & Wailing Caverns is only instances ive ever done :/).

If im not supposed to buy items for the AH, where do i get my items from?
The vendors' items are way too expensive, and the quist rewards give items
that are half my level.

[Sikawtic]

I think Geno meant, don't EVER buy anything from the AH while you're low lvl, like before you get your mount, which is pretty sensible advice from my PoV.I'm lvl 26 and have enough for my mount already.

And I was saying... I upgrade my armor (by buying it from the AH) every couple levels.

herbalism+auctioneer management=money.

[Geno]

I'm lvl 26 and have enough for my mount already.

And I was saying... I upgrade my armor (by buying it from the AH) every couple levels.

herbalism+auctioneer management=money.

You're level 26 in the time it took me to get to 40. You're sitting back, taking your time, grinding not only your toon, but also your tradeskills.

If you know how market economy works, and have the patience to sell things, and watch price flux... Then you'll make tons of cash in a few days. But I, myself? I'm a Leatherworker / Skinner (Dragonscaler Leatherworker, to be exact), and can't make a whole lot of money without expensive and hard to find mats. Black Dragonscales, and Cured Rugged Hides, which I can only make one every 3 days of.

On my other toon, I'm an Enchanter, soon to be Alc. And she's already 28, probably going to 30 tomorrow after I get my oil changed. She'll be a moneymaker once she gets over 200 Enchanting, but even so, being an Herbie, I can make Wizard and Mana oils, which are in BIG demand for endgame instances for things, since you can use trade windows, and have one person throw it on weapons and such.

But yea, my tradeskills aren't exactly moneymakers like Herbalism. Skins aren't needed in a ton of professions. Herbalism is almost required at endgame for Fire resist pots. Mining is almost required for Fire resist gear for Warriors and Pallies. Not to say Dragonscaling isn't needed for Hunters (And Shammies on the Hordies side). Thing is, Hunters can stand back, peg away from ranged, and have their pet (With a few skillups in Fire resist, pushing it well over 200 with buffs) murder. They don't have to have the godly amounts that other toons need, like Rogues, Healers, and such, whom are right in the fray, constantly moving around.

Not saying that it's important for the Hunters (And shammies) to get Fire Resist. But I am saying that it isn't 'required' for them to have as much as other classes.

*Shrug* Tradeskills are nice and all, and if you know how to work 'em, you can make 100g in a DAY with farming. But at lower levels, I'm going for the toon grind, not my tradeskill grind.

~Larry "Geno" Meyers

P.S. Sorry that was a long rant, but eh. I'm tired, and my brain is still going for some reason... *Thumps as he passes out*

[Sikawtic]

Yes I lvl slow, bu I was talking to some peoples from my guild, and was told of how to level... He said once I get it down I should be able to 60-out in 17 days flat. I think I'm going to have fun with it :D

Currently I'm trying to manipulate the ig market on medivh... trying to shoot herb prices through the roof (because those bastards QUADRUPLED t.backpack prices -_-)

[Toucan]

I levelled very slowly on my first toon, it took me 4 months to get my warrior to 60. It took me quite some time to work it all out and I don’t get to play all that often.
Second time round though I have taken my hunter to level 40 in about 4 weeks.

[killer-penguin]

Geno:

I love the AH, it's made me filthy rich lol. (well... i think so). You can sell worthless blues (i had a 33ac int+9 req. 20 cloth shoulder armor, and sold it for 50g), and sell my herbs on there and make a killing. I use a small portion of that money to upgrade my armors every couple levels, and still have tons to spare.

<3 AH

Playing the ah is completely different, if you have the skill and the patience then by all means go to town.

[King_Twinblade]

I levelled very slowly on my first toon, it took me 4 months to get my warrior to 60. It took me quite some time to work it all out and I don’t get to play all that often.
Second time round though I have taken my hunter to level 40 in about 4 weeks.


well if thats true please PM me about how to level :S

i got a hunter(orc) with skinning and leatherworking and its gowing just plain bad :cry: i only lose money i dont seem to find the right animals to kill to get the right leather and i dont have money to upgrade my lvl 14 gear (i am now lvl 19).

tho i got a alt. that is a warrior(tauren lvl 13) with blacksmitthing wich is gowing better i make my own items and wapens ..(my blacksmitthing and mining wont just cath up with me) and i am still pore. i got max with both my chars maby 2 gold :cry: but i am having more fun on my warrior :P for some unknown reason :D .

p.s. can some one PM me about how to get my proff's higer like where to mine good and where animals are that when i skin them my skinning will gain a lvl( i have skinnd 1000 animals and only gaind 1 lvl in skinning :s )
please :cry: :D :cry: ;)

[xodkrm]

If you have level 14 gear, no need to get better ones, unless your planning to do battle grounds. I recommend you upgrade your gear every 9-10'th level. I wouldn't worry about your professions right now, just focus on leveling. Once you get to the 30'ish, then you can focus on professions. Make sure you're keeping your fishing, first aid & cooking levels

[Toucan]

well if thats true please PM me about how to level :S

i got a hunter(orc) with skinning and leatherworking and its gowing just plain bad :cry: i only lose money i dont seem to find the right animals to kill to get the right leather and i dont have money to upgrade my lvl 14 gear (i am now lvl 19).

Keep in mind I have a level 60 warrior to back him up, not in dealing with creeps or anything of corse but if he needs gold my warrior can get it for him.
There are some great sites about that can give you info on what beasts you need to train to get your pet learned skills. (try HERE to start with) (http://www.goodintentionsguild.info/hunters.html)

As far as your skinning go's you have to move up levels of beasts as you level up your skill, if you are not gaining skill off level 19 beasts then you need to start working on level 20 beasts and so on.

As a hunter at level 19 you should be able to deal with up to level 24 beasts quite easily. Send your pet in, let him get agro for a bit, cast mend pet, then hit with scorpid sting to take down there stats a bit, then maybe an arcane shot, then mend pet again, then maybe reopen with an aimed shot and keep shooting, throwing in an arcane shot when you can, if scorpid sting runs out and they are not close to death, pop them with another one. Keep an eye on your pets health and cast mend pet again if you need to.

[killer-penguin]

Keep in mind I have a level 60 warrior to back him up, not in dealing with creeps or anything of corse but if he needs gold my warrior can get it for him.
There are some great sites about that can give you info on what beasts you need to train to get your pet learned skills. (try HERE to start with) (http://www.goodintentionsguild.info/hunters.html)

As far as your skinning go's you have to move up levels of beasts as you level up your skill, if you are not gaining skill off level 19 beasts then you need to start working on level 20 beasts and so on.

As a hunter at level 19 you should be able to deal with up to level 24 beasts quite easily. Send your pet in, let him get agro for a bit, cast mend pet, then hit with scorpid sting to take down there stats a bit, then maybe an arcane shot, then mend pet again, then maybe reopen with an aimed shot and keep shooting, throwing in an arcane shot when you can, if scorpid sting runs out and they are not close to death, pop them with another one. Keep an eye on your pets health and cast mend pet again if you need to.

That really only works with pets like bears/gorillas, etc.

[Toucan]

That really only works with pets like bears/gorillas, etc.
I have never had a bear or a gorilla, I love my kitty cats.
Though if you are looking for high armor, the turtle has the highest armor of all.

[King_Twinblade]

I have never had a bear or a gorilla, I love my kitty cats.
Though you are looking for high armor, the turtle has the highest armor of all.

1 ty a lot for the tips ill use it :)
2 i got a cat :) and a wind serpent :) the wind serpent is better then the cat but ill get a better cat soon i hope.

btw i can kill 24 creeps i cant even kill lvl 20 creeps but i need a better gun :S so i can kill em better :S