WarBoards Warcraft League Registration

[RedRagToAnOrc]

Ok, so there's been a lot of interest in that game night thread that wa123... resurrected. But anyway, with the different time zones and all, a lot of people can't make it to the game nights. Yoda and myself, to name but two.

I've created this thread, which Mindslaver may hopefully sticky, after running the idea past AJ. He thought it was fine, and that we would indeed need about ten or fifteen people to make it work. As there are about ten regular posters in this forum, assuming everyone joins in then we can have a decent competition.

Hereby follows the idea.

Step 1: We get ten or fifteen people to sign up, and then divide them into either two divisions (based on general strength) or lump them in to one, depending on what people feel like. Thoughts appreciated.

Step 2: We post fixtures as and when they are required. Perhaps a month in which to organise and play your game, with defaults given out if people have made an effort to organise it and they have been ignored/turned away.

Step 3: People can arrange to play their respective games when and where they want, on a mutual realm - or we could use "Home" and "Away". If you see me clearly. They can also play each other whenever is appropriate.

Step 4: Points systems and fixtures will be worked out when we know who is taking part. Whether it becomes a round robin or a Swiss League System (where people with most points play those with most points, as in chess) is still to be decided. At least one player would have to save the replay and submit it.

I urge you to sign up, because this is the one thing I will be able to take part in! I hope that this will bring a renewed sense of fun and camaraderie to the forums. Signups take part in this thread, just say if you're interested. PM me with questions. Oh, and please do sign up. I don't want this thread to fall flat on it's face and me to lose all credibility I once had. If any guests out there want to take part, I insist you make an account just to take part in this. Oh, and I have nothing to offer for a prize except this cookie and the title of "Best WarBoards Warcraft Player".

:cookie:

-- Redrag

Players interested
RedRag
Nedech
Ice
Fazant
Yoda
Genocide
EggCracker
LSB
xodkrm (Provisional)
Darkslayer
BlackMaw
wa123
SpeedyWorm
dayoh
Prozerran

Signups are now closed. If you would like to participate, I'm afraid you'll have to wait! Fixture lists and rules are currently being distributed to all members.

[Nedech]

Ill sign up

[ice]

hmm good to be back..il join...count me in

[thefazant]

i'll play in it

[Yoda]

I'll sign up for this, but in a few weeks I'll be unavailable indefinately because school would have returned :( And the timezones thing ;)

[GenocideAlive]

I'll beat whomever wants to lose.

[RedRagToAnOrc]

I'll sign up for this, but in a few weeks I'll be unavailable indefinately because school would have returned :( And the timezones thing ;)

Don't worry about it! You'll get a couple of weeks to a month to play each game, and you can arrange a time tha's okay for you. It'll all be fine. ;)

Keep the signups coming!

[Nedech]

To bad warboards ain't as active as it used to be;(

[EvilEggCracker]

Ill join though I must warn you...Im crap. I cant even beat the computer on easy...ON EASY! Meh, Ill give it a go. Perhaps it will be a learning experience.

[RedRagToAnOrc]

I would just like to add some additional ideas, which may or may not be included in the league itself.

Firstly, the use of towers and turtling. We've all been there and seen it, and it's very boring, and sucks the fun out of Warcraft. I just played an hour long game against a turtler where I sieged the living daylights out of him for 45 minutes and lost. It's things like that I want to avoid.

So I was thinking that we could set a rule in the points system, along with some other things.

Say it goes like this;

x points for a win
(x+y) points if you win with Random
(x-y) points for a win with overly large amounts of towers. (This would be determined at the discretion of... well, me.)

Thoughts? It's just that I really want to see some good, friendly play here, and not the sort of stuff that relegates people to the doldrums of Battle.net society. ;)

One tower is ok, two is fine, three is questionable, four is annoying. Unless it's at an expansion, which people have a right to do. But similar "amounts of towers" rules would apply there.

Anyway, it's just a suggestion. Continue signing up, I'm happy with the turnout so far!

[Lordshadowbane]

Ok, I'll join. Tho my router has been having issues so I might disc or so... Better practice or something... -.-

[GenocideAlive]

Meh, towers can be irritating, but there's no real way to limit them without detracting from the quality of strategies available to the sundry races. Although something like 15 towers per base seems a good number if this is decided as a popular idea.

[thefazant]

that tower idea is dumb, dont use it

[Nedech]

I 100% agree with the towers but i guess that obvious:D
I hope this league will lift the community of warboards, really nice idea Red~

[Darkslayer633]

I like it, and I'll even re-install WC, but one thing, I have no possible form of schedule, weekends in general are good.

one thing, I am not very good, and I wouldn't want to be playing stellar players right away, and getting crushed, mabye some way of judging skill, and grouping players by way of skill?

Edit: Whats the current patch again?
Edit2: I have it now.

[xodkrm]

Me Me Me Me Me Me
Im interested in 2 v 2 and 3 v 3 's .
Im only available 5:00 ~ 8:00 Pacific.
Im from Vancouver, so i might lag if i play with you easterners.

I say we use the official WCG or WeCG rules. (and the official maps)
http://www.worldcybergames.com/wcg2005/wc_officialgames_wc_02.asp

I also think that the tower & turtling limit rule is dumb.
It CAN be necessary. (eg: quick tech to gryphon, chimeras, etc.)
If towers were so cheap, it wouldnt be in the game.

[RedRagToAnOrc]

Me Me Me Me Me Me
Im interested in 2 v 2 and 3 v 3 's .
Im only available 5:00 ~ 8:00 Pacific.
Im from Vancouver, so i might lag if i play with you easterners.

I say we use the official WCG or WeCG rules. (and the official maps)
http://www.worldcybergames.com/wcg2005/wc_officialgames_wc_02.asp

I also think that the tower & turtling limit rule is dumb.
It CAN be necessary. (eg: quick tech to gryphon, chimeras, etc.)
If towers were so cheap, it wouldnt be in the game.

Sounds like people are divided on the tower rule. Like I said, one or two towers to fast tech with is fine, people can handle that. But huge amount of towers just for the heck of it is boring and takes ages to win for either side. I'll wait before I pass judgement.

I'm afraid it's a 1v1 league only, xodkrm, but I'm sure you could play some ATs with whomever you played with afterwards. I'll stick you down on a provisional basis.

Wow, I'm really chuffed with the turnout! Nice going, everyone!

We now have ten people. With the magnitude of signups, I decree that signups shall endeth soon. End of the weekend? What with the huge influx at the mo, and still a couple of regular forum posters to join up, it should work fine. Thoughts? I'll PM Mindslaver and AJ and tell them how it's going.

Edit: In response to Darkslayer's question - with the large group of people who are either new to the forum, don't play much Warcraft, or are simply (no offense meant) not very good, it seems to be a good idea to split it into two divisions. With the current signups, the groups would be as follows.

Division A: Genocide, Fazant, Myself, Yoda, and one other person (I'm hoping Prozerran will sign up. ;) )

Division B: LSB (floating between A and B, dependant on other signups), xodkrm, Ice, Nedech, EEE and Darkslayer.

Promotions and relegations for balance would take place as required.

[Nedech]

i will lose so hard but its fun playing

[Yoda]

I don't think that the tower rule is a good one. Maybe a tower limit or something?

But if any of you are intending on massing towers, remember that the replay of that game will probably be posted, and everyone will see you for a tower-masser, which is not a good thing.

[RedRagToAnOrc]

I don't think that the tower rule is a good one. Maybe a tower limit or something?

But if any of you are intending on massing towers, remember that the replay of that game will probably be posted, and everyone will see you for a tower-masser, which is not a good thing.

Well, that would be the point, really. I gather that a "tower limit" rule would be more popular. Suggestions as to what that should be? Three or four in one area maximum?

[thefazant]

no rules about towers, thats just retarded, why dont we make a no rush 5 min rule too while were at it.

[xodkrm]

Okay here are the rules that I think alot of people would like.
No more than 1 tower.
No more than 6 workers.
No more than 3 bulidings.
Only 1 hero allowed.
Maximun 10 units allowed to produce.
Maximuum food 12.
No attack other player with in 30 minutes.
No leaving base with in 20 minutes.
Under 1 action per minute
Win = Loss.
Loss = Win.

[RedRagToAnOrc]

Okay here are the rules that I think alot of people would like.
No more than 1 tower.
No more than 6 workers.
No more than 3 bulidings.
Only 1 hero allowed.
Maximun 10 units allowed to produce.
Maximuum food 12.
No attack other player with in 30 minutes.
No leaving base with in 20 minutes.
Under 1 action per minute
Win = Loss.
Loss = Win.

Fantastic. And how about "sarcasm makes the world go round"?

The tower rule was a serious suggestion based on what many people hate about Warcraft and how defensive towering is so unpopular. If you don't like it, so be it, feel free to have your opinion. But there is no need to voice such concerns in that manner. Let's get this back on topic.

[Lordshadowbane]

BTW I keep discing due to my new NetGear router (Mbps Wireless WCR614 v6). My previous router was a linksys, anyways the new one will allow me to sign onto bnet but disc me after around 20 minutes of gameplay online. Oddly, for other online games the router will not disc me or bother me. I've gone to the site where it allows me to open/close ports. It worked for a while but then it starting discing me again. The reason why was because I had opened it for a short duration since the default opening time for a port it 20-30 min. So then and I changed the time of keeping it open to the max/forever. But somehow it won't allow me to stay on bnet again. Any help would be appreciated. For now the only way I can play w/o discing is using a LAN program called 'hamachi'.

[GenocideAlive]

The tower rule was a serious suggestion based on what many people hate about Warcraft and how defensive towering is so unpopular. If you don't like it, so be it, feel free to have your opinion. But there is no need to voice such concerns in that manner. Let's get this back on topic.
Yeah, I think it's fairly obvious that this thread is meant for discussion of the league. Just say you don't like the towers rule and be done with it, we don't need to sift through pages of half-witted attempts at snappy comebacks.

[Yoda]

I'll ask a serious question. When is this going to start? It had better start soon, because I have school next week and virtually no time for Warcraft 3 along with it.

[Nedech]

Yeah i agree with Yoda, i got school aswell

[BlackMaw]

I'll play as well but I can't play a lot becuase of school.:D

[RedRagToAnOrc]

Once again, I stress that all you need is half an hour spare to organise and play a game, once every fortnight or so. Of course, if you can't make it, that's fine, we can work something out. It'll all be good, I swear. :)

Signups end when I turn on my computer tomorrow morning, (probably about 9am GMT) meaning that I will have fixture lists and rules distributed to all contenders by Monday, or Tuesday at the very latest. Eleven people should be enough, even if we don't get any more signups. Divisions are as stated, and as I have no idea of BMs strength (welcome to WarBoards!) I will put him in the lower strength group.

I have already begun drawing up the rules and will stick them either in this thread, or distribute them to everyone applicable when they are ready.

[Lordshadowbane]

I may not be able to join if my router (previous post by me) doesn't work right. Help?

BTW about the tower rule, does offensive towering count?

[wa123]

I was playing warcraft this weekend, didnt come to the board,
count me in dude, if Im not too late.

[SpeedyWorm1]

ill sign up.

[Dayoh]

I havent played Wc in ages and this makes me want to play it again so im in :)

[Prozerran]

Edit: In response to Darkslayer's question - with the large group of people who are either new to the forum, don't play much Warcraft, or are simply (no offense meant) not very good, it seems to be a good idea to split it into two divisions. With the current signups, the groups would be as follows.

Division A: Genocide, Fazant, Myself, Yoda, and one other person (I'm hoping Prozerran will sign up. ;) )

Division B: LSB (floating between A and B, dependant on other signups), xodkrm, Ice, Nedech, EEE and Darkslayer.

Promotions and relegations for balance would take place as required.

I'm in. Eastern Time is 11:37 p.m. I'm in before the end of the weekend... :) Hope I'm not too late. Let me know, my schedule is busy, but I'll contribute.

[GenocideAlive]

OK, so it's me and LSB.

LSB, anytime after 1730CST this week (including tonight) is good for me; this weekend is NOT good for me. You're at home so you pick the map. I realize you're going to be the very irritating Night Elf. XP

So do you want to play a best-of-3? I think if we're both going to be going out of our way to meet, here, we should at least be able to get more than one game out of it.

[AJ]

Closed. Take conversation to PMs or the other league thread.