View Full Version : for those who hate myspace, yet use it, I need your help
LinkTheGameFreak
12-02-2005, 5:35 AM
http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view...864b3b9682dcb19 (http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=6d8134fbbe964d76f864b 3b9682dcb19)
If you haven't heard, an emo kid committed suicide and posted publicly about it a few minutes beforehand... now I hate myspace but use it cuz it's easy to keep in contact with people who don't have facebook, and i could certainly do without the emo kids who all are cookie cutter, hot topic clad, lemmings.
I wrote this rant-ish thing and if you could repost this if you have myspace as a bulletin with the title "Myspace.com promotes suicide" i'd love ya'll forever
thanks guys :)
MYSPACE PROMOTES SUICIDE
Well if he wanted to make an impression, he sure did - too bad people will forget about this by next week... Emo amatures... Over a girl and because people wouldn't repost his bulletins or reply to his questions? Oh come on! If that was the case I would be dead 10 times over!
No offense, but we all know myspace is fake, and that of the 190r78709459730597 friends you have, you talk to, at most, 5. The bulletins are all rehashed garbage and stuff that has been debunked on snopes.com. The populus is made up of (in majority) emo kids who exasperate their situation and use cliched emotional phrases (that mean nothing) like "I'd slit my throat and with my last gasp of air apologize for getting blood on your shirt"
Their user pictures all consist of either barber college haircut rejects (www.cryspace.com (http://www.cryspace.com/)) or of some graphic (either of a bleeding heart or an eye or something) underneath badly formatted text that perfectly depicts their pain (ie. "I'll spill my heart for you until the day I die, but then you would dig up my corpse and squeeze the last drop of blood out...").
They all seem to fall in the 13-17 year old age bracket, yet think they are unique and "goth" by shopping at Hot Topic, watching all the episodes of Foamy, wearing tons of makeup and bitching about their problems which are all the same. Here is what they accomplish: They end up looking like 17th century Elizabethan prostitutes wearing overly tight jeans, combat boots, and mass produced "The Used" t shirts...
I almost forgot about the kid....
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http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view...864b3b9682dcb19 (http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=6d8134fbbe964d76f864b 3b9682dcb19)
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I think that for nothing else myspace only continues a horrible trend that starts in high schools and leads kids into depression, like the kid above, by pushing their popularity contests with who has more friends, and who has more comments... It sickens me and if you feel the same way, repost this message with the heading "Myspace promotes suicide"
- Adrian Gabriel Ramirez
Aquarian
12-02-2005, 8:40 AM
Now...That's terrible...Hope nothing like that happens to,Friendster (www.friendster.com) too.That guy's an idiot
I hope they all commit suicide online. Only, I hope they do it while hooked up to a live webcam.
Schwitzer
12-02-2005, 9:32 AM
How is this MySpace's fault? The kid was suicidal, and that's the bottom line. They offer a communication service, not a counselling service. If you don't like MySpace, then my logical suggestion would be to stop using it.
Running around squealing "Myspace.com promotes suicide" doesn't help anyone. It's just slander. And trying to use WarBoards as a recruiting ground for your little anti-MySpace campaign - no.
Also, i dont think there are too many people who hate myspace and use it nevertheless.
I dont use Myspace, but i dont hate it either. Its just a site, and i do not find it offensive.
I wonder if you feel as strongly about people killing themselves because of computer games?
GrassDragon
12-02-2005, 9:56 AM
Myspace doesn't make people commit suicide, it just brings suicidal teens all that much closer together. At least he got his attention whoring wish, his name is in the newspapers and people are actually talking about him.
chibi
12-02-2005, 11:07 AM
It's true that this is a terrible situation however; you cannot blame an inanimate object for promoting suicide. It isn't fair to the companies that decided to create a network to promote interaction with one another.
In the article it says something about how the people online did nothing about it and that makes them terrible people. Well damn, I wouldn't do anything about it either. The majority of the times these people who end up posting suicide threats are just seeking attention or so I've witnessed. It may sound ridiculous, but this event in no way directly effects people who did not know him in person. I'm not saying that if a person had an online relationship with this person that they wouldn't be affected. I know if someone on WB decided to post something to that degree I would be an emotional wreck but these boards are interactive, unless you send out a message to the person in question, myspace is just a place to blog.
Emo should not be used as an adjective, that's just stupid.
Modred
12-02-2005, 11:29 AM
Emo should not be used as an adjective, that's just stupid.
Why not? It describes a musical genre. But I know what you're saying; labeling people after a musical genre seems silly, no? But we've been doing it for decades...
Anyway, MySpace does not cause suicide and only the most imaginative stretches of logic could deduce such. If this constitutes MySpace causing suicide, then paper has been causing suicide for centuries. OMG! He wrote a suicide note on paper!!! Paper causes suicide!!11!!!!11
GrassDragon
12-02-2005, 12:11 PM
Why not? It describes a musical genre. But I know what you're saying; labeling people after a musical genre seems silly, no? But we've been doing it for decades...
As long as people continue to live the way they do based so heavily on the music they listen to, it's a valid label.
chibi
12-02-2005, 12:54 PM
As long as people continue to live the way they do based so heavily on the music they listen to, it's a valid label.
Maybe so but it just seems so stupid to compare a persons feelings with a type of music. When I feel down, people are constantly calling me emo. I hate it! I generally don't enjoy the music, people can be more musically creative then using the same guitar chords throughout the song and singing about how their girlfriend broke up with them; and I rather not have anything to do with it. It's like you are disregarding the situation and labeling someone because of the type of music they listen to, it's ridiculous. It's like calling someone with spikey hair punk-rock... and we all know that almost isn't ever true.
Morkeliph
12-02-2005, 1:06 PM
Maybe they wouldn't call you emo if you weren't so emotional about being down.
The important thing to remember is: teenagers are a$$holes.
LinkTheGameFreak
12-02-2005, 1:07 PM
my point is that myspace is a breeding ground for these "things" and is a tool to continue high school bullshit that makes kids feel bad about themselves and like this kid did and shot himself...
The site doesn't necessarily promote the actions, but it surely provides the means to do so...
if a kid was constantly harassed publicly in his school and school administrators did nothing to try and stop the problem (which they sould do, and are hired to do), wouldn't the outcome be on the shoulders of those who saw and did nothing?
All I wanted to point out was that myspace promotes this type of behavior, does nothing about it, and as a byproduct continues high school popularity and the rigermorrow bullshit that no kid should have to go through
I'm not anti-myspace... I'm anti-peoplenotdoingshitwhentheycanstopaproblem
Modred
12-02-2005, 1:14 PM
my point is that myspace is a breeding ground for these "things" and is a tool to continue high school bullshit that makes kids feel bad about themselves and like this kid did and shot himself...
So the problem isn't MySpace, it's school. That's the source. MySpace is simply a medium for expression. If we extend your logic, all social activities open to teenagers should be shut down as "high school bullshit" can follow kids there. No movies, no resturaunts, nothing where students can interact outside the walls of the high school. They might offend one another and then commit suicide! Oh no!
Sorry that I'm trivializing this guy's death, but the idea of censoring myspace because it can be used for harrassment makes as much sense as shutting down a movie theater because one person was mugged outside.
LinkTheGameFreak
12-02-2005, 1:25 PM
So the problem isn't MySpace, it's school. That's the source. MySpace is simply a medium for expression. If we extend your logic, all social activities open to teenagers should be shut down as "high school bullshit" can follow kids there. No movies, no resturaunts, nothing where students can interact outside the walls of the high school. They might offend one another and then commit suicide! Oh no!
Sorry that I'm trivializing this guy's death, but the idea of censoring myspace because it can be used for harrassment makes as much sense as shutting down a movie theater because one person was mugged outside.
in all honesty I see your logic, but it's not as superficial as you make it out to be...
I mean, back in Hammond, if an incident happened in our school they would sometimes cancel extracurricular activities for everyone...
Banning social activites outside of the school is taking this to another topic. It would be up to the discresion of the owner of the establishment whether or not to allow those people to stay
if they do kick them out for causing disturbance to other patrons (ie the victim and others) then they have done more good than the schools who did nothing
the same with myspace, why couldn't they ban or lock those problem causing members IP? We do the same here on WB if someone causes a problem for another member, right?
If you have ever had a problem with another member publicly harassing you here on WB and a mod didn't do shit to help, let me know...
Modred
12-02-2005, 1:28 PM
If you have ever had a problem with another member publicly harassing you here on WB and a mod didn't do shit to help, let me know...
The ... means give him an address and a picture. ;)
JUST KIDDING.
Thought I'd throw that j/k in there...never know what the FBI actually reads these days...
LinkTheGameFreak
12-02-2005, 1:31 PM
The ... means give him an address and a picture. ;)
JUST KIDDING.
Thought I'd throw that j/k in there...never know what the FBI actually reads these days...
lolz roFlz!! :P
GenocideAlive
12-02-2005, 1:37 PM
Maybe so but it just seems so stupid to compare a persons feelings with a type of music.
It also seems stupid to impotently whine about appropriate language trends that have been going on for 20 years. Not only does the label apply to the music, but it applies to the particular lifestyle that those music-listeners share. Don't tell me that applying the word "grunge" to people that listen to Nirvana, do drugs, and wear shitty unkempt clothing is unfair and some sort of social injustice. If you don't like the term "emo", stop indulging yourself in self-pity for attention. Problem solved.
And on a side note, I hate MySpace, Facebook, etc. and I sure as hell don't use it. It's a giant slambook from middle school and it exists as a way for people to extend the catty popularity contests of high school into college. Email and an IM client are all you need to "keep up" with friends, otherwise you're indulging yourself.
Omg I hate myspace with a vengeance.
This was bound to happen sooner or later, and I hope it causes problems with myspace.
These people using myspace seriously need a reality check ;/
Fucking morons.
And to those of you using it to "keep in touch" dont feed me that bull either, all you need is an email, or an IM.
-Neo
LinkTheGameFreak
12-02-2005, 1:54 PM
And on a side note, I hate MySpace, Facebook, etc. and I sure as hell don't use it. It's a giant slambook from middle school and it exists as a way for people to extend the catty popularity contests of high school into college. Email and an IM client are all you need to "keep up" with friends, otherwise you're indulging yourself.
facebook has its redeeming qualities, namely that not just anyone can sign up (you have to have a valid college email address), plus the capacity for pictures is great (unlimited!) and they even resize them for you :D
Facebook is what myspace should strive to become
And to those of you using it to "keep in touch" dont feed me that bull either, all you need is an email, or an IM.
I did use it to find people I lost track of years ago, so it has its redeeming qualities also, but the majority is shit
Once you found them you should have emailed them. Or IMed them and said hello. Instead of continuing to use myspace. Evil the myspace is.
-Neo
GrassDragon
12-02-2005, 2:01 PM
It also seems stupid to impotently whine about appropriate language trends that have been going on for 20 years. Not only does the label apply to the music, but it applies to the particular lifestyle that those music-listeners share. Don't tell me that applying the word "grunge" to people that listen to Nirvana, do drugs, and wear shitty unkempt clothing is unfair and some sort of social injustice. If you don't like the term "emo", stop indulging yourself in self-pity for attention. Problem solved.
Where's the karma system when you need it.
LinkTheGameFreak
12-02-2005, 2:05 PM
Once you found them you should have emailed them. Or IMed them and said hello. Instead of continuing to use myspace. Evil the myspace is.
-Neo
I used AIM to keep in touch since then...
but i'm being serious, i was looking for one person for 4 years and i finally (shit out of luck) i decide to look on myspace for her and there she was... talk about luck...
GenocideAlive
12-02-2005, 2:57 PM
Where's the karma system when you need it.
It's actually working. As in, I'm currently judging you for judging me. Kharma works; it's seriously deep shit.
Modred
12-02-2005, 3:32 PM
It's actually working. As in, I'm currently judging you for judging me. Kharma works; it's seriously deep shit.
He's actually referring to a system we formerly had (and blizzforums currently has) where users can give other members points for a good post. ;)
Graeme
12-02-2005, 8:06 PM
It also seems stupid to impotently whine about appropriate language trends that have been going on for 20 years. Not only does the label apply to the music, but it applies to the particular lifestyle that those music-listeners share. Don't tell me that applying the word "grunge" to people that listen to Nirvana, do drugs, and wear shitty unkempt clothing is unfair and some sort of social injustice.
Agreed.
If you don't like the term "emo", stop indulging yourself in self-pity for attention. Problem solved.
Anna most definitely does not indulge herself in self-pity for attention ^_~. --In my pants.
Whiteknight
12-03-2005, 2:19 AM
I'm sick of stories like this. Really, life can get bad. It can suck. You're just backing out and being a coward that way. Suck it up and get over it for once.
Anyways, when did Emo even come into use? I never even heard it a year or two ago and now it's in full blown use.
if a kid was constantly harassed publicly in his school and school administrators did nothing to try and stop the problem (which they sould do, and are hired to do), wouldn't the outcome be on the shoulders of those who saw and did nothing?
Yeah, like that'll really work, Link. The only way for a kid to stop it is to do something themselves. Adults intervening will only make it worse. Yes, those who saw and did nothing could have something on their shoulders but I disagree. The kid himself still committed suicide when there was no need too, the others didn't make him.
(For some ironicness, I was listening to "Beautiful Life" while reading this)
Spartan-II
12-03-2005, 3:40 AM
NeoX and I agree on soemthing finally.
My friends got to discussing MySpace in class: (MF1 - Male Friend one; FF1- Female Friend one)
MF1 - "Yeah, I made an awesome logo for MySpace, you should go on after school and check it!"
FF1 - "Yeah, that sounds cool!"
Me - "Or you could print it out and show her..?"
MF1 - "Waste of paper, and besides, MySpace is free!"
Me - "So is printing something out and bringing it to school to show everyone.."
FF1 - "You can communicate over MySpace though!"
Me - "I thought that's what a mouth was for!'
MF1 - "You can listen to music while you read about them too."
Me - "CD Player, and why not ask in real life..?"
FF1 - "Yeah, but you can't do it at the same time."
Me - "Why would you need to?"
I basically won and they said just because I don't like it doesn't mean I should totally discount it.
MySpace != Useful.
LinkTheGameFreak
12-03-2005, 4:07 AM
Yeah, like that'll really work, Link. The only way for a kid to stop it is to do something themselves. Adults intervening will only make it worse. Yes, those who saw and did nothing could have something on their shoulders but I disagree. The kid himself still committed suicide when there was no need too, the others didn't make him.
(For some ironicness, I was listening to "Beautiful Life" while reading this)
I'm not saying it everyone elses fault, but there are reasons for administrators and moderators on sites like ours and theirs... to keep things cooled down... and apparently they weren't doing too good of a job :(
Demon_Child
12-04-2005, 6:54 AM
MySpace, Facebook, and all of their clones are mainly too primative for my taste. Besides, small talk isn't one of my strong points. Arguements and discussions, on the other hand, is my bag.
Sikawtic
12-04-2005, 1:48 PM
The quote is so true though. I joined myspace to post on friends blogs... and soon found that if you clicked any member links you were suddenly brought to the page of some goth wannabe. So retarded.
Sikawtic
12-04-2005, 5:35 PM
I hate the word "Emo." It's gay.
psycho42b
12-04-2005, 6:37 PM
Sorry to just bust in like this, but what does "emo" mean, exactly?:confused:
GrassDragon
12-04-2005, 7:16 PM
I'm not saying it everyone elses fault, but there are reasons for administrators and moderators on sites like ours and theirs... to keep things cooled down... and apparently they weren't doing too good of a job :(
Mods can't prevent suicides. There is no cure for stupidity.
Mindslaver
12-04-2005, 7:45 PM
Sorry to just bust in like this, but what does "emo" mean, exactly?:confused:
Emo (an abbreviation of "emotionally-driven Hardcore punk") is a term now broadly used to describe almost any form of guitar-driven alternative rock that expresses emotions beyond traditional punk's limited emotional palette of alienation and rage. It is also used to describe fans of this genre, most commonly teenagers. (e.g., emo kid). The actual term "emo" originated in the mid-1980s D.C. scene, with the band Rites of Spring, as well as bands such as Fugazi, Moss Icon, and Antioch Arrow. ...
Thank you Wikipedia!
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