Broodwar Terran Units:Good Or Bad?

[Carnivore]

Personally i hate all the broodwar units available to the terran (except the medic) whats your thoughts or ideas.

[Zeratul106]

? medics rgood depend what r u using it on

[Markpyro]

O_o ...
I dont play starcraft, but im sure Blizzard wouldnt make terran all that unbalanced compared to the other races, therefore i conclude that they're probobally not all that bad but you're just complaining because 1) it takes skill to play with them and is too hard for you or 2) you feel like whining here for some obscure reason. This in fact, is quite a pointless thread.

[Carnivore]

markpyro i used to kick ass in some starcraft tournaments with terran but i just hate terran broodwar unitstherefore i conclude that they're probobally not all that bad but you're just complaining because 1) it takes skill to play with them and is too hard for you

[Aquarian]

Then don't play SC with the BW on.

[Ahzz]

terran bw units are good, as good as protoss and zerg bw units. please don't make a idiotic thread "Oh, I think Zerglings should have 34 hp, and not 35 hp! Any ideas!?". Yeah, I kick ass too on tournaments, that is full of newbs. I bet you have never played a high skill - tournament

[Aquarian]

Meet teh l337(Sorry for the l337)Koreans.

Yeah,we've have enough of this threads.Maybe you should tell Blizzard to make a patch?
ANd,Terran are the balanced race(My point of view).Their goliaths make good assaults and defence while the marines are the only basic units that are far ranged

[Ghost_Assasain]

The terran units in Bw were not as ineffective as you say. If you can use them right your Team of Marines and Firebats can go a long way or your oppenents Carrier fleet can dissapear. They are useful in differant ways to say a Lurker or a Dark Templar. But thats just the fun of the game.

If you can learn to use them right then you should see that they have their value just as every other unit does.

[Alexisonfire]

pffft terran is the best race at mid to high levels if anything they are better then zerg and protoss. in pro leagues terrans have the highest win percentage

[Modred]

Personally i hate all the broodwar units available to the terran (except the medic) whats your thoughts or ideas.

Hmm...Broodwar units...minus medics...leaves valks. So the only unit you hate is valks, since all the others are the same as regular SC. So just don't use valks. xD

[jaws]

i believe that in my own expierence medic or only minimally useful they seem to die too quickly or just get in the way of my tanks, marines,firebats, and vultures, i think that brood war should have included many more newer units to choose from, so that to me was the only downside of broodwar....

cheers!!!

-jaws

[Aquarian]

Bw is a expansion pack.And,if they get their way,just make them hold position near the marines and firebats.

[Carnivore]

what you are all failing to understand i think is wat do u think of the units not available in the origonl starcraft but that are available in the brood war expansion... forget the marines firebats vultures.. im talking valkeries and medics!

[Ahzz]

they are good and in balance? I bet I saw someone say that too, maybe with different words though

[Carnivore]

sorry everyone, some one has been using my login and stuff and posted this stupid thread there are only valkeries and medics and there the only BW introduced units.im gonna go kill my bro now.

[Fronter]

WTH TeH VaLkS aRe TeH UlTiMaTe UnIxOrS. yE hAvE tA bE a HaXoR tO hAtEm.

(Sorry I will never do that again.)

[Aquarian]

Yeah.Massing Walk's will pwn any air unit.

'Who's your mommy?'

[InfestedArchon]

Valks arent as good as sairs in any way shape or form... but they do serve as a good air defence. They are pretty much ideal for the defence of your choke point. A few bunkers and a shit load of tanks followed by a force group of valks, 7 scvs and prolly 5 medics pwn. The medic's special ablities are what makes Terran pwn BW, because you dont have to worry about lockdown anymore if you are terran, that is if you know how to use them. Blind... well it works that one time in the campaign bur I really never find it useful. And of course for your early game offensiveage medics are ideal. 5-8 medics with 1-2 force groups of marines, and one force group of firebats kicks ass (early game ;0)
Valkyries are ok in offense if you have enough of them, the only problem is: nobody is going to be stupid enough to build only air units, because every race has some unit that pwns air, and building enough valkyries to ward off a fleet of battle cruisers is going to cripple the supply limit you need for ground defense units. Im thinking the best strategy in all of SC is just to mass BC's and be done with it. LOL

[Alexisonfire]

ya don't mass bc's if u try u'll get run over long before u get any +u ill never get enough to do any real damage before they get owned (tvt bc's are sort of useful but i would prefer wraiths/tanks)

[Aquarian]

Massing bc's are useful if you have the time to defend your frigging base.

[Alexisonfire]

ya fuck this i'm not arguing about this cuz i know i'm rite and u suk at sc

[RedSarge]

Personally i hate all the broodwar units available to the terran (except the medic) whats your thoughts or ideas.
UNITS?
Theres only 2, the Valkryie missile frigate and the Terran Combat Medic.
You either love em or you hate em?:D

[Aquarian]

ya fuck this i'm not arguing about this cuz i know i'm rite and u suk at sc

Who are you pointing this to?

[T.empla.R]

Valks are awsome you can have six of those and take out someones overlords before they can send (or Unburrow) Defense (well not really but they are effective ;) )

[Alexisonfire]

Who are you pointing this to?ummmmm u and ur BC comment

[Glad_2_bestoned]

lol there are only 2 i like valkies they are like virtully the only thing that can stop a drop

[MidnightGladius]

Er:

vT: Goliaths
vP: Just have a few turrets in your main to ward off early DT. Then use push turrets to consolidate.
vZ: Never happens :/

[afz]

BC's always get pwned by Darck archons, they will feedback you and if the feedback dun kill u they will mindcontrol you to a GG!!

[RedSarge]

Feedback only does a maximum of 250 Dmg to Battlecruisers.
That might not be enough to stop a large amount of them, but mind controlling half of the invading fleet tends to turn the tide. :smirk:

[InfestedArchon]

As soon as i start getting BC's I had them to my defense, and that pwns. Go ahead and try to feedback.. all I have to do is send in SV's and EMP shock wave your shit and i HIGHLY doubt you can micro faster than me, unless you are the creator of starcraft him...their..selves. the dark arxhons will die before they even think about using any kind of spell.

but to tell you the truth... mased dragoons kinda pwn BC's... unless I send in a force group of tanks as well. Mass BC's and one other unit will counter anything. Just give me a scenario and i'll counter it using BC's / something

[Basan]

but to tell you the truth... mased dragoons kinda pwn BC's... unless I send in a force group of tanks as well. Mass BC's and one other unit will counter anything. Just give me a scenario and i'll counter it using BC's / something

I'm not too much of medling in the SC's tactical part, but if you're having large masses of BC's, most likely you won't have the resources (namely gas) to pump up a good Tank backup force as you've stated (in normal maps, that is). :poke:

[InfestedArchon]

it depends on how good you are at getting other bases. Sure if you are playing 4 person free for all on BLood Bath you wont have the recourses, but i like to play on maps that have like 20 bases.

[Sgt.SlagRock]

Bcrusers are scrap metal if the opposing player is Pross and comes in with upgraded scouts and goons. Scouts probably have the best air-air attack for their size/cost. Who aggrees?

[Sgt.SlagRock]

Personally i hate all the broodwar units available to the terran (except the medic) whats your thoughts or ideas.


If ur just talking about the brood war units ur tottally right. The medic rocks tho. The valkary is expensive and can't really do anything than overlord hunting. The one thing i love tho is the upgrade to charon boosters for the goliaths, those are the best:poke:

[MidnightGladius]

Dude... what map has 20 full mining bases? I'd seriously like to see one...

Also, if you're Terran, do you honestly expect your opponent to let you take 20 (!!!) expansion?!

[Infested_Zeratul]

I don't care wat the Terrans get, cause to me, they all suck and reek. I will kick mdc and Vlk butts

[Dusty]

If your going to waste space on this site to complain about the Terran units then just get off. A zergling can kick butt depending on how you use it. It does not matter how good the unit is. It matters that your skill to use it suck!

[Basan]

it depends on how good you are at getting other bases. Sure if you are playing 4 person free for all on BLood Bath you wont have the recourses, but i like to play on maps that have like 20 bases.

Can anyone say "fastest $$$ maps"? :rolleyes:
Note that I've said in normal maps... and I'll leave it at that. :smirk:

[MidnightGladius]

Also, a scenario in which you can't win with BC/something:

You're playing on an island map, and the enemy is Zerg and has expanded everywhere while you were teching to BCs. So now, you face a large force of Muta/Scourge/Devie with a drop force of Def/Ultra/Ling ready as soon as you move your units out of your base. Meanwhile, six Guardians start firing at your masses of Turrets. A com-sat shows that the entire Zerg air force along with 8 overlords is accompanying the Guardians. A ring of Overlords around your base means that your opponent knows as soon as you're going to attempt to leave the base.

What do you do?

[Sgt.SlagRock]

umm.... you die? lol

[MidnightGladius]

Exactly.

That scenario was directed to Infested_Archon, who said:

Mass BC's and one other unit will counter anything. Just give me a scenario and i'll counter it using BC's / something

[Glad_2_bestoned]

an infested archon? wow aren't we imaginative today.

[SuiCidAl-KiSmEt]

an infested archon? wow aren't we imaginative today.This thread is about broodwar terran units, not names. Your name doesn't sound so standard either, as with many of us here.

Optical Flare has to be the most useless spell blizzard put in StarCraft. It's only good for if the enemy player sends one unit to do an attack. If you blind a unit, its buddys around it can see for them. The only real thing I would think of using optical flare is doing it on the Zerg Qeen, to disable it's sight after it uses spawn broodlings, the next time it comes back it can't see where its going, but even that sounds a little worthless.

[MidnightGladius]

Dude, Optical Flare can be used for a number of things. If you're very gosu, you can blind all of P's observers in a TvP, so that your wraiths can pick off their carriers undetected. In fact, that particular example was from PP04 by Boxer.

True, it's a bit inflated at its cost, and is very specialized, but it's still useful. It's also good for accomplishing UMS effects, too.

[Alexisonfire]

really its better just to scan for obs target with wraiths then continu8e to pwn carriers

[SuiCidAl-KiSmEt]

If you're very gosu, you can blind all of P's observers in a TvP, so that your wraiths can pick off their carriers undetected. In fact, that particular example was from PP04 by Boxer.
Boxer, that one famouse korean player? You could medic flare a oberver... but wouldn't you have to use scanner sweep to find it, then flare it? Wouldn't it be a better idea to hotekey ure scanner sweeper and kill the observer than hotekey a medic and wait for it to run all the way cross the map? Same with Overlords.

Well, I can only think for it for using it in a few ums games, but thats all.