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JoEsMhOe
08-18-2005, 1:55 PM
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/9018/Microsoft-Announces-Xbox-360-Price/

Ending weeks of speculation about which upcoming video game platform will give gamers the most bang for their buck, today at the German Games Convention, Microsoft Corp. revealed that consumers can get their hands on Xbox 360 — the most powerful and feature-packed next-generation video game and entertainment system — for as little as $299.99 U.S./€299.99/£209.99 starting this holiday season. For gamers who want to experience the ultimate digital entertainment thrill ride, Microsoft also announced a model with hundreds of dollars worth of accessories for $399.99 U.S./€399.99/£279.99, giving consumers the definitive entertainment experience at an unbelievable value right out of the box.

The Xbox 360 and Xbox 360 Core System — along with an impressive lineup of high-definition game titles from the world’s best publishers and developers — will make their debut in North America, Europe and Japan in time for this Christmas holiday, several months ahead of the competition. Although details for the Japan launch will be addressed at the Tokyo Game Show in September, the unprecedented three-region launch signifies an industry first. The Xbox 360 platform will deliver the most powerful console, the best games, the next generation of the Xbox Live service, and amazing digital entertainment experiences never seen in console entertainment.

“The sheer entertainment value of Xbox 360 cannot be overstated,” said Robbie Bach, chief Xbox officer for Microsoft. “While the system has the muscle to power awe-inspiring graphics, audio and online play, it’s also got the intelligence to serve as a one-of-a-kind entertainment device that plays CDs, DVDs, MP3s and digital content from an array of devices, including portable music players and digital cameras.”

With its built-in Ethernet port and free Silver level of service right out of the box, Xbox 360 also connects players to Xbox Live, the premier global online console games and entertainment network.


With Xbox Live, gamers can chat with friends online, build and share gamer profiles, send and receive text and voice messages, and access Xbox Live Marketplace for new content such as game demos, trailers and casual games from Xbox Live Arcade. Subscribers to the Gold level of service will also enjoy access to online multiplayer gaming in their favorite games, as well as great promotional programs such as worldwide tournaments, the chance to play online with their favorite celebrities, and opportunities to win big prizes.

For gamers who want the ultimate experience (and the best value) right out of the box, Microsoft will offer the $399.99 U.S./€399.99/£279.99 Xbox 360 console. This premium edition — distinguished by signature metallic detailing on the console itself — comes fully loaded for the ultimate gaming experience, with components and accessories that would cost more than $200 if sold separately:


Xbox 360 console. Sexy styling that packs a punch — three powerful core processors are poised to pump out 720p/1080i output, 16x9 cinematic aspect ratio, anti-aliasing for smooth textures, full surround sound and DVD playback right out of the box.
Xbox 360 Hard Drive (20 GB). 20 GB and detachable, the hard drive allows gamers to store their games, music, downloaded trailers, levels, demos and community-created content from Xbox Live Marketplace.
Xbox 360 Wireless Controller. Hassle-free high-performance precision wireless gaming features the Xbox Guide Button for quick access to digital movies, music and games libraries as well as a range and battery life of up to 30 feet and 30 hours of life on two AA batteries.
Xbox 360 Faceplate. The removable Faceplate comes in stylish “chill” (white) and can be swapped out with custom Faceplates to reflect gamers’ personalities or decor.
Xbox 360 Headset. This lets gamers strategize with teammates or trash-talk opponents while playing games on Xbox Live.
Xbox 360 Component HD-AV Cable. This connects gamers to the world of Xbox 360 games and graphics through high-definition and standard-definition connections.
Xbox Live Silver membership. With this, gamers can chat with friends online, send and receive voice and text messages, and access new content from Xbox Live Marketplace demos such as trailers and casual games from Xbox Live Arcade.
A bonus Media Remote: Included for a limited time, the integrated control center for the entire digital experience lets consumers play DVDs, movies and music, as well as access their Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005-based PC's controls with a single remote.


At $299.99 U.S./€299.99/£209.99, the Xbox 360 Core System comes standard with what consumers need to jump right into next-generation games and media, and is fully expandable to the complete Xbox 360 experience:


Xbox 360 console. As with the premium edition, three powerful core processors pump out 720p/1080i output, 16x9 cinematic aspect ratio, anti-aliasing for smooth textures, full surround sound and DVD playback right out of the box.
Xbox 360 Controller. This wired controller features an extended nine-foot cable and a comfortable, enhanced ergonomic design.
Xbox 360 Faceplate. Like no other console before, the Xbox 360 console allows customization and a removable Faceplate that comes in stylish “chill” (white), which can be swapped out with other custom Faceplates to reflect gamers’ personalities or decor.
Xbox 360 Standard AV Cable. This connects gamers to the world of Xbox 360, delivering great next-generation graphics and games using standard-definition connections.


I won't be getting one anytime soon. Too damn expensive. For those in Canada (like me), we will be paying at most $500 for the Prem. version.

ice
08-18-2005, 2:11 PM
personaly, i buy PS, not XBox, i like more the PSs and mayne i will try someday, an XboX, till then Ps rulz!

ZeroDarkStar
08-18-2005, 2:27 PM
Nice - Xbox defientally has the advantage this generation since the PS3 will likely be priced at the 450 price mark.

Rayne
08-18-2005, 2:59 PM
Nice - Xbox defientally has the advantage this generation since the PS3 will likely be priced at the 450 price mark.

Im with ZDS, the timing of its release, the price and the games make the XBOX360 a console I cant risk to pass up. Ill most probably be buying it in the early months of its release if not the launch day.

CrankyBuddha
08-18-2005, 3:22 PM
ill probly buy a revolution, and the only reason im posting here is to inform everyone that online multiplayer IS NOT FREE. You will still have to pay the subscription to actually play on xbl, i was going to buy a xbox 360, because i was under the initial impression that the online play was going to be free, but then i read the fine print, and became rather upset that microsoft is creating the false illusion that it would be free, and im glad they finally said something in this news quote, but they still need to make it plain from the start. And i dont really want to pay 50 bucks a year to play xbl, when the revolutions online is going to be free of charge as well as the ps3's.

Nuts
08-18-2005, 3:32 PM
Premium edition, but only once a chip has been produced.

Rayne
08-18-2005, 3:41 PM
And I dont really want to pay 50 bucks a year to play xbl, when the revolutions online is going to be free of charge as well as the ps3's.

Wow. I didnt know that. PS3 is looking alot better, but the Revolution still sucks major balls. The PS3 and the 360 are like 8 times more powerful.



Nintendo statement:
"We realise that the Revolution may not be as powerful as its counterparts. But its not about how much power you have, but what you do with it."

Thats like what people with small penises say. :P

Nuts
08-18-2005, 3:44 PM
Nintendo statement:
"We realise that the Revolution may not be as powerful as its counterparts. But its not about how much power you have, but what you do with it."

Thats like what people with small penises say. :P


Now that's funny! :D

Darkslayer633
08-18-2005, 3:55 PM
Wow. I didnt know that. PS3 is looking alot better, but the Revolution still sucks major balls. The PS3 and the 360 are like 8 times more powerful.



Nintendo statement:
"We realise that the Revolution may not be as powerful as its counterparts. But its not about how much power you have, but what you do with it."

Thats like what people with small penises say. :P



Hey hey hey... now you listen here, nintendo is the founding god of what we now, know as the gaming world, while I'll opt to wait for PS3 myself, never never diss nintendo, for they are the true gods of gaming.

Modred
08-18-2005, 4:02 PM
And to think that the PSX was originally a joint effort to create a SNES acessory. Anyway, I like that Microsoft is making two versions, although I'll probably save up for the premium if I happen to still have any money left this holiday season.

As far as I know, Nintendo has released no specs for Revolution, so it isn't entirely fair to compare it to other systems in that way, yet.

CrankyBuddha
08-18-2005, 4:17 PM
you guys can go ahead and trash nintendo all you want, but im gonna be the one with a little extra cash, and about 200 more games. :D

Edit: And Rayne, dude, you need to settle down. It seems there is something offensive in almost all of your posts anymore, from calling me a homosexual ****** that masturbates in the corner for liking XFire to assuming that you know what people with small penises think about any given topic.

Bottom Line: Chill The Hell Out.

Rayne
08-18-2005, 4:52 PM
Bottom Line: Chill The Hell Out.

Dude. I was making a joke. Haha. Nuts found it funny. And I didnt mean to insult anyone with small penises. If anyone needs to calm down here, its you. Dude, learn to take a joke.

Ill edit this in like 30 minutes.

Rayne out.

ZeroDarkStar
08-18-2005, 5:14 PM
you guys can go ahead and trash nintendo all you want, but im gonna be the one with a little extra cash, and about 200 more games. :D

Ever notice that only the large companies release their games on Gamecube when they are also released on PS2 and Xbox? Seems to me that Nintendo either gets exclusive games, or not at all.

And I already own an N64 and all the games I find interesting, thank you very much.

Killphill
08-18-2005, 6:26 PM
Hmmm if PS3 costs to much it looks like X-box might "win"... By the time PS3 is released X-box may have gone down in price...

you guys can go ahead and trash nintendo all you want, but im gonna be the one with a little extra cash, and about 200 more games. :DUrrr 200 more games? What do you mean you'll be able to get all the games from the 90's with its downloading feature? Mabye Nintendo should focus on the present and not how good they were back then...

Modred
08-18-2005, 8:09 PM
I think we can safely say that price is not really an object. Gamecubes were never as expensive as PS2 or Xbox, but in the long haul did worse than both. PS3 could be $450 and still decimate Microsoft's sales, especially if 360 starts off as slowly as the original Xbox did (Gamecube was ahead for quite some time).

ZeroDarkStar
08-18-2005, 9:31 PM
Modred, now that Xbox has an existing userbase, sales should be quite fast.

Spartan-II
08-18-2005, 9:49 PM
For all we know, the Revolution could be god-in-a-box. I say, judge when they come out, not from what they say. Think of Halo 2's hype, and how dissapointed people were when it wasn't as 'OMGWTFBBQHAXX' as it was made out to be.

CrankyBuddha
08-18-2005, 10:08 PM
Dude. I was making a joke. Haha. Nuts found it funny. And I didnt mean to insult anyone with small penises. If anyone needs to calm down here, its you. Dude, learn to take a joke.

Ill edit this in like 30 minutes.

Rayne out.

I wasnt really focusing on the small penises thing, i just used that as an example, but my point is, the inappropriate crap in your posts is really not necessarry, and i dont really want to talk anymore about this.

Rayne
08-18-2005, 10:15 PM
I wasnt really focusing on the small penises thing, i just used that as an example, but my point is, the inappropriate crap in your posts is really not necessarry, and i dont really want to talk anymore about this.

Right. Then PM me if you want to continue this. Although I dont know where this is going.

And Spartan, I see where you're coming from, but still, Nintendo has already made a number of statements concering where they will place their focus. And in most people's opinions these are the wrong places.

IE. Downloading old Nintendo games rather than improving online play or the general capability of the game.

Neo
08-18-2005, 10:46 PM
There are many many people who are looking forward to the possibility of playing old n64 or snes games on an official platform from nintendo. Mostly, I believe, this is an effort to target an older audience, since most younger kids won't really care, having grown up with computers and playstations and stuff.

Nintendo also seems to focus more on its portables then anything, whichI think is kind of interesting, since they've always made the best. This home, at least, well eventually have a PS3 and a revolution :D

Besides, how do you know what nintendo is planning? How could they not improve online capabilities? They will be offering free online play via the DS later this year... And wtf does "general capability of the game" even mean?

You don't need a 423489 ghz processor and 32458 teraflops to make a good gaming system.

-Neo

Spartan-II
08-19-2005, 1:27 AM
I agree Neo. I beleive in games, not consoles. If the PS2 had Halo, Halo 2, and the soon to be Halo 3, I would drop the Xbox like a hot iron.

Sikawtic
08-19-2005, 2:34 AM
There are many many people who are looking forward to the possibility of playing old n64 or snes games on an official platform from nintendo. Mostly, I believe, this is an effort to target an older audience, since most younger kids won't really care, having grown up with computers and playstations and stuff.

Nintendo also seems to focus more on its portables then anything, whichI think is kind of interesting, since they've always made the best. This home, at least, well eventually have a PS3 and a revolution :D

Besides, how do you know what nintendo is planning? How could they not improve online capabilities? They will be offering free online play via the DS later this year... And wtf does "general capability of the game" even mean?

You don't need a 423489 ghz processor and 32458 teraflops to make a good gaming system.

-NeoThe PSP is a better hand held... it just is. If Sony could find a way to make the prices Gameboylike they'd kill Nintendo pretty quickly.

I personally will buy the PS3, and maybe the Revolution. Then if I have money to blow, an X360.

The specs are for graphics, and yes, good games don't always need good graphics, but if we are capable of attaining them... why not?

Whiteknight
08-19-2005, 4:05 AM
I've been calculating all of this. Here's what the total actually comes out to.

First off, you're going to need something to store your saves, characters, etc in. Obviously, a memory card, priced at $40 isn't going to do it which means you need the 20GB hard drive, which sells for $100. At that price, you might as well get the premium. So let us start.

Premium: $400

Okay, now we have a wireless controller instead of a wired one. Because you'd end up spending more money in the long run, you have to get a rechargable battery and a charger, each sold seperate thank you MS.

Play and charge kit: $20
Rechargable battery: $12

At this point, you're going to be able to play a game. Nothing else, besides a little bit of thrown in demo crap for silver live, which does nothing. You also have a ton of cords lying around also. Now you have to buy a game and I'll be generous.

Game: $50

Let us add them up.

Total (so far) = $482
Add the tax = + $33.72
Total (so far) = $515.74

Okay, at this point you'll be able to play a single game by yourself. No multiplayer, either over XBL or at your own house. Since most people will never get an X-Box with XBL, let us add another $20.

Xbox with XBL: $515.74
+ $20 ($21.4 with tax)
= $537.14

Alright, so now you can play with friends across the net with one game. However, you still can't invite anyone over for a nice little fragfest. Most people are going to get a controller.

Controller: $50
Rechargable battery: $12 (since you can use the recharger for more than one, I suppose)

subtotal = $66.34 w/tax
total = $603.48

Now, if you wish to actually take some of your character/creations over to a friends house, you are going to need a memory card.

Memory card: $42.8 w/tax
total = $646.28

At this point you're pretty much set for a good time. You have XBL and another controller for a friend if they come over (although you can add another 100 if you always have a ton of people over). You can also take your stuff to a friends house. However, if you are one of the unlucky most who won't have the XB near your internet, you are going to also need the wireless adapter.

Wireless adapter: $107 w/tax
total = $753.28


Barebones single player: $515.74
Internet multiplayer: $537.14
Xbox with RL friend over: $603.48 ($736.16 if you get 3 extra controllers instead of just one)
Xbox so you can go over to a friend: $646.28
Wireless adapter for internet if needed: $753.28

X-box, no thank you. I love how MS advertised a "core" version for $300 when they know people will have to get the premium, even if it is just for the hard drive. This enables them to say "starting at $300" and fool people even more, even though the minimum you'll most likely pay for the Xbox is $515. Funny stuff.

The PSP is a better hand held... it just is. If Sony could find a way to make the prices Gameboylike they'd kill Nintendo pretty quickly.

I personally will buy the PS3, and maybe the Revolution. Then if I have money to blow, an X360.

The specs are for graphics, and yes, good games don't always need good graphics, but if we are capable of attaining them... why not?

Yes, say that to the millions of people with dead pixels in their screen because it is the one thing that sony decided to cheap out on. The PSP will never be as low cost as the DS or Gameboy because the DS and GB focus on one thing: gaming. As a result, they don't have any of the extras that the PSP has, extras that jack up the price and create some issues.

As for your last point, I'd rather not sacrifice good gameplay for graphics. I've seen this happen. The more graphics you have and the more graphics intesive game you have, the less immersive and expansive it can be, the less developed it could be because of the time spent on models, and the more cluttered it may be.

I think we can safely say that price is not really an object. Gamecubes were never as expensive as PS2 or Xbox, but in the long haul did worse than both. PS3 could be $450 and still decimate Microsoft's sales, especially if 360 starts off as slowly as the original Xbox did (Gamecube was ahead for quite some time).

Nintendo is quite far ahead in the profit division, leading the way by a fair margin, followed by Sony and then finally Microsoft. While the xbox and PS were both selling for a loss when they were released, Nintendo was selling for a very large profit. In fact, only recently since the GCN has lowed its price to $99 have they been selling for a loss, and only a single digit one rather than double or three digits like xbox and PS. If you cry wolf, ask me and I'll provide the link.

Hey hey hey... now you listen here, nintendo is the founding god of what we now, know as the gaming world, while I'll opt to wait for PS3 myself, never never diss nintendo, for they are the true gods of gaming.

It depends on what you mean as the founding god of the gaming world. If not for a little screen with a ball blipping across it, there would have been nothing. Hell, if it was for hackers in the universities that first got computer that created space wars, there would never have been video games. If there had not been Atari's genius at selling home consoles, perhaps the way we play would still be in arcades. Yes, Nintendo did shape a whole lot about gaming, perhaps more than most (take for example the save feature in Zelda. Where would we be without that?). However, you can't really define one company as the god or creater of the gaming world since neither could have come without the other.


And Spartan, I see where you're coming from, but still, Nintendo has already made a number of statements concering where they will place their focus. And in most people's opinions these are the wrong places.

IE. Downloading old Nintendo games rather than improving online play or the general capability of the game.

Obviously you never been raised in the era when nintendo first started or grew popular. If you had ever played games like Chrono Trigger, Final fantasy, Super mario, you'd know why this is such a strong feature. Hell, probably half the games I'll be playing on it will be RPGs from the SNES.

And how are they not improving the general capability of the game? They have increased specs, every next gen console does. However, raw power does not equal better. Xbox had the most raw power and yet the failed to utilize it all.

Online is coming, why havn't you heard of this?

Ever notice that only the large companies release their games on Gamecube when they are also released on PS2 and Xbox? Seems to me that Nintendo either gets exclusive games, or not at all.

Ever notice that only the large companies release their games on PS2 when it is on Xbox or GCN? Ever notice how the large companies release their games on Xbox when it is on the PS2 or GCN? Ever notice how these large companies maximize their profits by selling their game across all 3 systems? Ever notice how these games are either going to be exclusive to one system or not? Your logic is flawed, ZDS.

Thats like what people with small penises say. :P

And obviously you havn't yet realized that this is actually true.

CrankyBuddha
08-19-2005, 8:01 AM
Wow, that was long... yet insightful. Im glad someone else here appreciates just what a huge thing nintendo's game library is, And as long as the revolution's online is free, and doesnt lag a crapload, then i can say nothing against it, one suggestion: A headset, but that isnt even really needed, its just a fun thing, half the time i play counter strike or any xbl game i dont use the headset anyway, only when my friends are on.

Rayne
08-19-2005, 1:14 PM
Obviously you never been raised in the era when nintendo first started or grew popular. If you had ever played games like Chrono Trigger, Final fantasy, Super mario, you'd know why this is such a strong feature. Hell, probably half the games I'll be playing on it will be RPGs from the SNES.

Well, thats just you. Ive played out all the good and worthwhile SNES games and Im looking forward not backwards.


Online is coming, why havn't you heard of this?

Wow. Yet another insightful remark . Have you seen what one can do on XBL on the 360? One could spend hours on XBL without even going near a game. Secondly, I said that Nintendo should add more features to their online play like Xbox has.

ZeroDarkStar
08-19-2005, 3:54 PM
Ever notice that only the large companies release their games on PS2 when it is on Xbox or GCN? Ever notice how the large companies release their games on Xbox when it is on the PS2 or GCN? Ever notice how these large companies maximize their profits by selling their game across all 3 systems? Ever notice how these games are either going to be exclusive to one system or not? Your logic is flawed, ZDS.

There are only 3 or 4 companies that can afford to release all their games across all platforms. EA is one. I haven't seen many Gamecube exculusive games that weren't MADE by Nintendo in awhile...sorry, scratch that, one. Giest is the only one I've seen that's not Nintendo made. Whiteknight, I'm not going to get into another "Let's defend Xbox!" conversation. I'm just not going to. I love it and you don't have to.

Whiteknight
08-19-2005, 8:16 PM
There are only 3 or 4 companies that can afford to release all their games across all platforms. EA is one. I haven't seen many Gamecube exculusive games that weren't MADE by Nintendo in awhile...sorry, scratch that, one. Giest is the only one I've seen that's not Nintendo made. Whiteknight, I'm not going to get into another "Let's defend Xbox!" conversation. I'm just not going to. I love it and you don't have to.

We don't have to. I misunderstood your statement. Yes, few companies release GCN only games, but this is true also for Sony and Xbox with only a few exceptions (although, yes, GCN has far fewer not related to Nintendo, but have more games by nintendo)

There are also a lot more companies than 3 or four that have across console games. I'll name a few just in my closet of games:

-RockStar Games
-Ubisoft
-Activision
-Sega
-Akclaim
-Capcom

And those are just a few in my collection. For the amount of extra money that can be had across several platforms, most companies anty it up for the long haul. Take a look at your Wal-Mart next time and take notice of the many games that exist in the Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft game areas.

Well, thats just you. Ive played out all the good and worthwhile SNES games and Im looking forward not backwards.

It is hardly just me. Ask around and you'll find many people will be getting the revolution just for that feature. As for the second part, I suppose the modern age of gaming has already got to you. Try taking some time to play some other games like SC for a while that are still more fun that most other games right now.

Have you seen what one can do on XBL on the 360? One could spend hours on XBL without even going near a game. Secondly, I said that Nintendo should add more features to their online play like Xbox has. And yet most people overlook those features and proceed directly to playing their game, or else just play with them for a bit and get bored.

Rayne
08-19-2005, 10:03 PM
And yet most people overlook those features and proceed directly to playing their game, or else just play with them for a bit and get bored.

Most people? What people? WTF. No one has played the XBOX360 on XBL yet....so how could most people get bored with the features not yet released and then proceed directly to playing the games that havent been released yet.

Very smart. :P

CrankyBuddha
08-19-2005, 10:24 PM
Most people? What people? WTF. No one has played the XBOX360 on XBL yet....so how could most people get bored with the features not yet released and then proceed directly to playing the games that havent been released yet.

Very smart. :P

Im fairly sure that Whitenight was talking about consoles and whatnot in general, in which case hes right. Take steam for example. i know very few people who ever actually look at the news, or bother with a friends list (i for one can never even log into the "friends network") I sometimes use the moniter to watch with glee as steam updates a game and hogs all my bandwidth, but other than that, they really arent that usefull, and, as WK stated, people go straight to playing their game. If however, Whitenight wasnt talking about consoles and whatnot in general, i just wasted 3.5 minutes of my time carefully phrasing this whole post for nothing. If thats the case, then CURSE YOU WHITENIGHT!!!!!:cry:

Whiteknight
08-19-2005, 10:44 PM
Im fairly sure that Whitenight was talking about consoles and whatnot in general, in which case hes right. Take steam for example. i know very few people who ever actually look at the news, or bother with a friends list (i for one can never even log into the "friends network") I sometimes use the moniter to watch with glee as steam updates a game and hogs all my bandwidth, but other than that, they really arent that usefull, and, as WK stated, people go straight to playing their game. If however, Whitenight wasnt talking about consoles and whatnot in general, i just wasted 3.5 minutes of my time carefully phrasing this whole post for nothing. If thats the case, then CURSE YOU WHITENIGHT!!!!!:cry:

Quite right.

Most people? What people? WTF. No one has played the XBOX360 on XBL yet....so how could most people get bored with the features not yet released and then proceed directly to playing the games that havent been released yet.

Very smart. :P

I was even responding to you when I wrote that, who talked about the current Xbox. Here's a hint: Whenever there is a quote above some text, they are usually replying to that person. Also, try to not question other people's intellects before you are sure of your own. (By the way, this little paragraph is in response to your post, Rayne, just so you don't get confused this time.)

CrankyBuddha
08-19-2005, 10:46 PM
stated like a true scapegoaty...whitenighty...mod guy...

Rayne
08-20-2005, 12:19 AM
I was even responding to you when I wrote that, who talked about the current Xbox.

Oh. Well my mistake. You dont have to get all pissy about it by the way.

Whiteknight
08-20-2005, 12:38 AM
Oh. Well my mistake. You dont have to get all pissy about it by the way.

And you don't have to get defensive about it. I was hardly acting "pissy".

CrankyBuddha
08-20-2005, 6:47 AM
*CrankyBuddha slaps both Rayne's and Whitenight's hand for creating potential for a flame war, then sighs, admits that hes done that about a thousand times, and goes to see Wedding Crashers with his girlfriend.

Edit: Hilarious!

Rayne
08-20-2005, 4:45 PM
Edit: Hilarious!

Truly was.

kongurous
08-20-2005, 4:59 PM
*CrankyBuddha slaps both Rayne's and Whitenight's hand for creating potential for a flame war

Cranky, Whiteknight is a mod. He can't get involved in flame wars.

Rayne
08-20-2005, 5:01 PM
Cranky, Whiteknight is a mod. He can't get involved in flame wars.

Haha. Whys that? WK is holy eh. :P

Night-Hawk
08-20-2005, 5:26 PM
If you think about it if you buy the primiun Edition your only like paying 100 bucks more but if you buy the core then evantually start to buy the other stuff its probley ganna be well over the price of the primiun so i'm ganna be buying the full thing :D

singo
08-20-2005, 8:34 PM
The cheap one.


Far and away, AND I will be waiting for it to come down in price too.....

Neo
08-20-2005, 8:58 PM
Well, thats just you. Ive played out all the good and worthwhile SNES games and Im looking forward not backwards.




Wow. Yet another insightful remark . Have you seen what one can do on XBL on the 360? One could spend hours on XBL without even going near a game. Secondly, I said that Nintendo should add more features to their online play like Xbox has.

I have something called the "Internet" for "other things" besides "games". It also costs nothing to "subscribe" all I need is a connection! Not a connection, subscription, and possibly a wireless adapter.

You've got to admit that without Nintendo our gaming universe would be pretty fucked up.

Oh, and no thanks to the psps being superior. I already have a DVD Player, its hooked to this thing called a TV with surround sound. I already bought a PS2 for cheaper then the PSP (lmao), and on top of that, I don't have all this extra money to by two versions of my movies :\

A PSP might be nice to have, but its nothing I really want, neither is, for that matter, the DS. I prefer the SP :o

-Neo

Nuts
08-20-2005, 9:10 PM
Can we not agree that everyone has different priorities, and thus will want to purchase different console depending on the features that may be important to them?

You people are acting worse than Ford/Chevy arguments.

I will buy an Xbox, not because it's better than anything else, but because I personally prefer what Microsoft has to offer in this area.

Whiteknight
08-20-2005, 9:12 PM
*CrankyBuddha slaps both Rayne's and Whitenight's hand for creating potential for a flame war, then sighs, admits that hes done that about a thousand times, and goes to see Wedding Crashers with his girlfriend.

Edit: Hilarious!

Please, if you don't have anything to add then refrain from posting at all.

Cranky, Whiteknight is a mod. He can't get involved in flame wars.

Quite true, although I'd like to think of it because I personally wouldn't.



Haha. Whys that? WK is holy eh. :P

Or perhaps I've matured enough to realize such petty fights arn't worth it.

A PSP might be nice to have, but its nothing I really want, neither is, for that matter, the DS. I prefer the SP :o

The DS really upped the backlight. Every single pixel is evenly lit. It's far better than the SPs, although I wouldn't get the DS just for the better backlight. It's just a nice added feature. Anyways, just wanted to mention that...

Battlecruiser
08-22-2005, 2:59 AM
I'll probably be getting to premium version, but only when it comes down to $300 and if Halo 3 comes out. I probably won't be getting any other games unless they are as good as the halo series, since for this xbox, the only games I really play are Halo and Halo 2, even though I have like 5 other games.

Joszer
08-22-2005, 12:07 PM
I've been calculating all of this. Here's what the total actually comes out to.

First off, you're going to need something to store your saves, characters, etc in. Obviously, a memory card, priced at $40 isn't going to do it which means you need the 20GB hard drive, which sells for $100. At that price, you might as well get the premium. So let us start.

Premium: $400

Okay, now we have a wireless controller instead of a wired one. Because you'd end up spending more money in the long run, you have to get a rechargable battery and a charger, each sold seperate thank you MS.

Play and charge kit: $20
Rechargable battery: $12

At this point, you're going to be able to play a game. Nothing else, besides a little bit of thrown in demo crap for silver live, which does nothing. You also have a ton of cords lying around also. Now you have to buy a game and I'll be generous.

Game: $50

Let us add them up.

Total (so far) = $482
Add the tax = + $33.72
Total (so far) = $515.74


Correction, the games for the XBOX360 will be 59.99 not 49.99. I just thoguht i would point that out :D.

Whiteknight
08-23-2005, 7:12 PM
Correction, the games for the XBOX360 will be 59.99 not 49.99. I just thoguht i would point that out :D.

Source, please? And let it be from an actual retailer, like Wal-Mart or EB Games.

Spartan-II
08-23-2005, 8:05 PM
WK - It's true, they are 59.99 USD.

Hah - I don't have sales tax here in Oregon!

kongurous
08-23-2005, 8:17 PM
Source, please? And let it be from an actual retailer, like Wal-Mart or EB Games.

What does it matter whether he has a source or not, it furthers your point!

Joszer
08-23-2005, 9:30 PM
Well I work at Gamestop and I know these things :) , mostly because when people reserve games they pay in full of $64.74 to fully pay off and reserve a 360 game.

singo
08-23-2005, 10:30 PM
Fecking hell, STILL 40 quid for a disk thats production costs are low enough for newspapers to give them out for free?

I hate capitalism

Toucan
08-23-2005, 11:34 PM
Fecking hell, STILL 40 quid for a disk thats production costs are low enough for newspapers to give them out for free?

I hate capitalism
Yeah that may be true mate, but if you spent 5 years of your life creating a game, how much would you "give" it away for?

singo
08-23-2005, 11:49 PM
20 quid tops?

Or have I missed the point?

Whiteknight
08-24-2005, 2:22 AM
What does it matter whether he has a source or not, it furthers your point!

That's like saying to ignore the facts in a debate. I prefer to be truthful so I don't have to be held accountable for false statistics. That's why I gave a very generous game price based on the price of games already out there.

Well I work at Gamestop and I know these things :) , mostly because when people reserve games they pay in full of $64.74 to fully pay off and reserve a 360 game.

Thanks. I suppose you just have to add on 15 dollars to each of the totals, which makes it even more expensive.

Fecking hell, STILL 40 quid for a disk thats production costs are low enough for newspapers to give them out for free?

I hate capitalism

You arn't paying for the disk itself but rather the time and effort put into creating the information on the disk.